Huangshan pine in training.

[GGB]

I'm starting to think these pines are much better suited to warm weather climates. Mine look much more immature and are much shorter. No true needles yet. I'm not confident mine will survive the winter in the ground. The growth described above reminds me of loblolly pines. They grow continuously and like the hot humid south east

 

[moke]

Here's some Huangshan Pines in their natural environment, looks cold to me?

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[moke]

I'm starting to think these pines are much better suited to warm weather climates. Mine look much more immature and are much shorter. No true needles yet. I'm not confident mine will survive the winter in the ground. The growth described above reminds me of loblolly pines. They grow continuously and like the hot humid south east

Here's some Huangshan Pines in their natural environment, looks cold to me?

 

[GGB]

@moke snow on a mountain top doesn't directly correlate to harsh winter temps. It'll snow pretty far south here, especially in the mountains. In fact it snowed here today at 37 degrees. I'm more worried about the 10, 5 and 0 degree mark these seedlings will experience. Only time will tell of course, maybe it's just in my head because they are listed as zone 7 - 9. I just can't help but notice they look three times happier than mine in a warmer climate.

 

[penumbra]

It is hardy to zone 7. Though it is from warmer temperate zones it can be found at elevations as much as 12,000 feet. Acid produced be its roots allow it purchase on steep granite mountains and cliffs. It actually disolves some of the minerals it needs from the rock and the roots grow into deep crevasses and can be several times longer than the trunks.

 

[bonhe]

I enjoy reading and seeing your Huangshan updates, mine are about the same age and size as yours currently, but I’m curious to see how that changes with time, I have a very long winter dormancy so it will be interesting to see growth differences between our climates?
Thanks for the updates, I’ll update as soon as I pull them out of winter storage, most likely sometime towards the end of March?

Thanks for sharing information. Yes, it will be very interesting to compare its growth in different climates. It looks like I am the only one grows this fantastic pine in Southwest ! Please update your tree when it is possible. Thanks in advance

I'm starting to think these pines are much better suited to warm weather climates. Mine look much more immature and are much shorter. No true needles yet. I'm not confident mine will survive the winter in the ground. The growth described above reminds me of loblolly pines. They grow continuously and like the hot humid south east

Yes, I think its continuous growth will be an advantage in my area . But, growing fast does not mean it will become a nice quality bonsai, I am talking about the bark quality. I like to compare its bark in different climate . We are very lucky because our pines are almost the same age!

Here's some Huangshan Pines in their natural environment, looks cold to me?
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Wow, thank you very much for posting this excellent picture! I love it! It is almost liked the Chinese painting! I will copy this picture to help me in painting. I am in progress of Sumi-e learning and this picture is perfect for me

@moke snow on a mountain top doesn't directly correlate to harsh winter temps. It'll snow pretty far south here, especially in the mountains. In fact it snowed here today at 37 degrees. I'm more worried about the 10, 5 and 0 degree mark these seedlings will experience. Only time will tell of course, maybe it's just in my head because they are listed as zone 7 - 9. I just can't help but notice they look three times happier than mine in a warmer climate.

I hope your pines will be fine .
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[Anthony]

Getting taller down here.
Good Day
Anthony

 

[bonhe]

Getting taller down here.
Good Day
Anthony

Please share info here . Thanks Anthony
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[bonhe]

I transplanted all of them (60) into the separated 4” pot yesterday and this morning !
The soil content is DG: pumice: pine bark: forest product ground (Tuff-N-Tee) with ratio 4:2:2:2. I also scattered humic acid granule into this mix .




the root


the root was trimmed off


The shortest and tallest


I thought the tallest was 40 cm in the past, but it is actually 35cm.


There are only few short seedlings.
There are new shoots coming out from the lower trunk


I added the old soil around the root and on the top of the new soil . Finish!


I will start fertilizing them in Spring.
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[B.uneasy]

Mine have taken some harsh snow. I'll see if they survived in a few months.

did they?

 

[BonsaiNaga13]

did they?

nope. might try again though

 

[bonhe]

In the last 3 days, nighttime temperature was dipping down to 34 F. This afternoon I found some of seedlings have dark purple color. Let see what happens next.





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[GGB]

@bonhe here in Pennsylvania it’s very common for many pine and juniper species to change color like that when they get cold.

 

[bonhe]

Hi GGB,
Thanks for letting me know.
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[bonhe]

They hav all kind of the terminals at this time

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[bonhe]

They start being back into the track at this time . I see they have 2 kinds of shoots.
One with the “neck”


one without the “neck”


I already fed them with Woodace ACRE 12-3-6, Hynix acid granule and organic fertilizers 2 weeks ago.

Planning to wire them in a few months
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[Farwest]

Thank you @bonhe for informing us about these pines. I now have about 200 seedlings in 4” pots and 3 gal. grow bags from last year. The largest are about 12” tall, grown from seed in anderson flats. I have noticed they can be wired, but are brittle, like japanese red pine. Has anyone figured out how to get these to backbud? They seem primarily prone to apical growth.

 

[bonhe]

Thank you @bonhe for informing us about these pines. I now have about 200 seedlings in 4” pots and 3 gal. grow bags from last year. The largest are about 12” tall, grown from seed in anderson flats. I have noticed they can be wired, but are brittle, like japanese red pine. Has anyone figured out how to get these to backbud? They seem primarily prone to apical growth.

You are very welcome Farwest.
My tallest one is 46 cm as this morning. I did not wire them yet, but I think it is flexible as JBP. Maybe because you tried to wire it when the weather is still cold ?
I believe it will be very easy to backbud . Please look at this one. I just took its picture this morning.


The upper trunk with new shoot started about 1 month ago


The middle trunk developed in last season. There are a lot of new shoots (in yellow circles) arising from the old needle bundles even though these pines were not pruned at all so far


I am looking forward to wiring them probably next month and will transplant them to the one gallon pots in next winter.

Please show us yours. Thanks

p/s: I can see a lot of 3 needle bundles on these pine. It will be changed to 2 needle bundles later on I think.
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[BonsaiNaga13]

since my first batch died i started another batch and took em out the fridge 2 weeks ago. already having a few pop. Im mad they all died last time though because the jbp i started the same year is looking beautiful

 

[Farwest]

@bonhe Yours have already started growing well this year. I live about 20 miles inland from the coast and probably receive less sunlight in Winter/Spring.

As with other conifers, the seedlings crowded in Anderson flats seem to have grown taller than the seeds individual 4” pots, but have fewer lower branches.

These are just over 1 year old.

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