Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Four or five people on my ignore list could supply that for you.
To argue, could you put your best foot forward to post?
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Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Reaction to the ignore list just ignore it.
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
I got you... we've already established I'm not worthy so I'll be happy to be a bad influence. In fact I have a shirt that spells out my job here.
How would you know they give bad advice?
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
So just who is it that is thin skinned with delicate sensitivities?
Suggestion...look up the definition of hypocrisy.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
One who could get offended when asking to see a photo of a snake...not a tree. How's that for being specific there? So lookie there...I would have to say I must find some things you say worth chewing over. Since your not on it.
Edit:should have not replied...and made you wonder. Oh I amuse myself at times...dropped the ball there on that one.
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twisted trees
Omono
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I did not know you were trying to establish a bona fides, but if a tree proves it,-- so it has. Beautiful tree.
jeremy_norbury
Omono
Disagree all you like, it doesn't make you right.
I've killed 2-30 trees every year for the last 40 years.
Am I shit at bonsai? No.
You haven't killed hardly any trees, right and therefore you're somehow better?
You ARE overly cautious because the majority of people ARE killing more trees than you believe is normal, but by all means, tell yourself whatever makes you happy.
twisted trees
Omono
From the op, "So when you go telling the next guy what he has done wrong or how they should be doing it...all the posters trees so he can evaluate whether they are someone to listen to, or just someone to put on ignore, which is pretty much how I do it now."
twisted trees
Omono
Since I propagate pre-bonsai I also kill a fair share of trees I also create more acceptable trees than the average person. The more you do something the better results are inevitable, even if by mistake.
Steve Kudela
Shohin
Jeremy, I'm not sure how to take this. I don't consider myself an expert or a master of bonsai by any stretch, it doesn't matter. And yes, i've had a number of very good trees die over the years, some that I never knew why, they just didn't leaf out that spring. The only trees that I've had to die in recent years were killed by herbicide. And I promise that while I do exercise proper caution, I am not overly cautious with them. I've worked towards having trees that are spartans in that they are not babied in any way. When I was active in bonsai with clubs and like that, club members knew me as a guy who was not afraid to cut or root prune or any of that. no guts, no glory. At the same time, I'm not totally stupid either. I say all this to get to this point............ while everyone who has practiced bonsai for any length of time has killed trees, ( it's part of the tuition you pay to go to bonsai school) it seems to me that a better mark of proficiency is when you're having trees live rather than die. I'm not a elitist or better than anyone, but I'll side with Judy in this one
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
How many have you lost to poor winter protection/bad weather? I seem to remember you saying several things about that. I give my trees more winter protection than most would say is necessary, but have never had a winter related issue. Overly cautious? Not really- just doing what needs to be done to keep my trees happy.
I have done the work on my trees, and am not overly cautious. I am not saying I'm better than you or anyone else -NEVER did I say that I'm better. I am only stating that saying that I'm not as good as anyone else BECAUSE I have not killed more trees is ridiculous.
I have lost a number of very nice trees, but I'm not overly proud of this, and certainly don't use it as a measure of success.
AALen
Seedling
Jerry, I see your charm works over here, too. I mean, good gawd man.
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
AALen
Seedling
Yup. A 3 (now 4 post) seed. Not new to Jerry though 
defra
Masterpiece
I am aware im just a newb to bonsai with my one year of experience, tough i try to only advice what worked out for me and try to post a link to topics of my own to try to visualize what im saying.
Sometimes i share what was adviced to me in the same situation and i confirmed to work for me.
Still i think it still takes some common sense to consider different advices and chose what you think would work best for you and your climate.
Being a newb i know how hard it is to take advice sometimes and even harder how to ignore it and just do what you think yourself
I kinda drowned myself in all the info there is good or bad and got lost but eventualy i started swimming in the right direction.
Sometimes i share what was adviced to me in the same situation and i confirmed to work for me.
Still i think it still takes some common sense to consider different advices and chose what you think would work best for you and your climate.
Being a newb i know how hard it is to take advice sometimes and even harder how to ignore it and just do what you think yourself
I kinda drowned myself in all the info there is good or bad and got lost but eventualy i started swimming in the right direction.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Paulpash
Masterpiece
It was this exact topic @sorce that I had a polite disagreement with Al after he had insinuated I had no grafting experience & I have grafted many, many different trees over 15 years, probably being one of very few people that has an entire bonsai that was grown from a single thread graft over a decade ago. In that post I gave evidence of several trees that I had grafted and, in the spirit of 'practicing what you preach' I'll post a tree from my benches that I've worked on over several seasons to improve:
Potentilla, in it's training pot, starting development from raw, garden dug material:
Pruning job, uro carved and setting the bones:
The same tree, 3 years later, after several wiring jobs:
I got really upset probably because I grow all of my trees from raw material - 95% of which come from my own grow beds & the rest from cheap purchases or dig ups from other folks' gardens and it riled me that the suggestion was I had no idea what I was doing because I didn't have the time to post a photo as evidence at the time....
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