SI have decided to go back into bonsaiNut seclusion.ee ya guys.

[amcoffeegirl]

Maybe you haven’t experienced this yet- you’ll see one day what love and loss are like. @sorce
Until you feel it then you just don’t know

 

[sorce]

Maybe you haven’t experienced this yet- you’ll see one day what love and loss are like. @sorce
Until you feel it then you just don’t know

But the point is, this part of the conversation has nothing to do with that.

Sorce

 

[amcoffeegirl]

But the point is, this part of the conversation has nothing to do with that.

Sorce

You know who else used to talk about their wife with love and affection- grimmy.
So you wanna talk some more shit or nah?
And now I’m crying

 

[Silentrunning]

I am not going to waste my time getting in on this thread.

oh, wait a minute,

Damn!

Never mind.

 

[MrWunderful]

You know who else used to talk about their wife with love and affection- grimmy.
So you wanna talk some more shit or nah?
And now I’m crying

How about this? In that Mirai thread, when I didn’t post a picture like smoke told me to do, and called him out on it, he sent me a nasty p.m. insulting me And calling me names. Then, he threaten to find out who I was snd call me out at a bonsai show like I would be afraid of a 75-year-old calling me out at a Bonsai show.

So now I have our entire interaction nicely saved in Photos on my phone so if he does decide to stock up and call me out in front of his friends, I’ll happily show them the entire interaction which makes him look like a petty juvenile.

Seeing others who see this guy for who he really is is extremely satisfying.

This is what now the 5th I’m leaving thread lol

 

[amcoffeegirl]

How about this? In that Mirai thread, when I didn’t post a picture like smoke told me to do, and called him out on it, he sent me a nasty p.m. insulting me And calling me names. Then, he threaten to find out who I was snd call me out at a bonsai show like I would be afraid of a 75-year-old calling me out at a Bonsai show.

So now I have our entire interaction nicely saved in Photos on my phone so if he does decide to stock up and call me out in front of his friends, I’ll happily show them the entire interaction which makes him look like a petty juvenile.

Seeing others who see this guy for who he really is is extremely satisfying.

This is what now the 5th I’m leaving thread lol

So put him on ignore

 

[sorce]

You know who else used to talk about their wife with love and affection- grimmy.
So you wanna talk some more shit or nah?
And now I’m crying

Grimmy didn't talk to people like this.

We are all responsible for ourselves and our actions.

The proper approach to life, is to have knowledge of self, come to friends and say, "hey, I'm feeling fucked up inside because of shit that's going on in my life, I'd love to see some trees to help that go away."

Not come and act like a baby not getting your way, then drop all this BS on us because you're sore about not getting paid for all the information Ryan Neil is getting paid for.

That's what this is about. $. Nothing else.

That's why it's pathetic, and love, family, friends, is not even the issue.

The issue is good people approached Smoke before, about his feeling fucked up inside because we knew. It's empathy. He denied feeling fucked up then. But is showing us we were right then.

So what are we to do?

I've offered my shoulder, my love, my friendship.

But when you shun it, and further, hurt more and more people that come here to learn.....
.
I'll still love you through it.

But this shit needs to stop.

Sorce

 

[MrWunderful]

So put him on ignore

Fuck no im not scared lol. His threat was so hollow, I didn’t even report it. I have let people know about it however.

He should put me on ignore

 

[amcoffeegirl]

Grimmy didn't talk to people like this.

We are all responsible for ourselves and our actions.

The proper approach to life, is to have knowledge of self, come to friends and say, "hey, I'm feeling fucked up inside because of shit that's going on in my life, I'd love to see some trees to help that go away."

Not come and act like a baby not getting your way, then drop all this BS on us because you're sore about not getting paid for all the information Ryan Neil is getting paid for.

That's what this is about. $. Nothing else.

That's why it's pathetic, and love, family, friends, is not even the issue.

The issue is good people approached Smoke before, about his feeling fucked up inside because we knew. It's empathy. He denied feeling fucked up then. But is showing us we were right then.

So what are we to do?

I've offered my shoulder, my love, my friendship.

But when you shun it, and further, hurt more and more people that come here to learn.....
.
I'll still love you through it.

But this shit needs to stop.

Sorce

Well you started talking shit about his wife first and now every one thinks it’s ok. It’s really not- it’s f’d up.
So you should and need to check yourself.

 

[amcoffeegirl]

Fuck no im not scared lol. His threat was so hollow, I didn’t even report it. I have let people know about it however.

He should put me on ignore

Maybe you don’t know how ignore works??

 

[sorce]

I would be afraid of a 75-year-old

I would be, because I don't remember I'm bulletproof. And truth truth.... The "signs" are such that, giving away sticks to people is like giving candy to kids from an open white van door.

Many a Murderer had a charming smile.

Plus, we all have shovels in our trunks.

Sorce

 

[amcoffeegirl]

I really give up on ya’ll.
I’m done with this nonsense.
back to my tropical section- in peace!

 

[sorce]

Well you started talking shit about his wife first and now every one thinks it’s ok. It’s really not- it’s f’d up.
So you should and need to check yourself.

I would never do such a thing, and if you think I have, I'm sorry.

Sorce

 

[MrWunderful]

Maybe you don’t know how ignore works??

No, I know exactly how it works. I just don’t runaway from words on an Internet forum. I gave him respect, and even told him that I learned a few things from him but that wasn’t enough, he even insulted my wife publicly in that thread.

But whatever, I’ll still look at his pictures of trees he posts ( Not to mention Enjoying my Mirai subscription)

 

[Woocash]

What is your initial plan for this tree?

I just want to fill the canopy out a bit more I think. My girlfriend bought it for me last summer at hampton court flower show and she likes it the way it is with all it’s flaws so I said I wouldn’t change it too much. This is it last August just after I got it. I didn’t like the cloud type foliage so much, a bit too topiary like for me.


I‘m currently applying the hedging technique to it to try and get it to back bud and fill in the gaps more naturally. Then I’ll have a go at wiring what it produces in the winter.

 

[Woocash]

I haven’t seen you post this tree Woocash. So your just a care taker or is it yours? Yeah I def see the flaws, but being an elm you could do a lot with it! I’d love a look under the skirt. Do you have any leafless shots? Elms take ground layering really well and if you start it now, you could have aN entirely new nebari/root system to cut to by next season. I think you’ve shown through collected material and your commentary that you are capable of anything you set forward for your self and I’m glad you posted this tree up. Yes loaded with flaws, but better start doing now, than doing later in some cases. Will it ever be a show stopper? Probably not, but could still be something your far more proud of than you seem now.

I did post it a while ago in the tree thread, just so I had something to post! But it is mine and I am proud of it because it’s healthy and couldn't really be any happier. It’s got decent ramification and looks the most bonsai like. Also, as I said above, my hands are kind of tied when it comes to styling it. That said, it’s a base to start with and it means it hopefully wont be too long before I have creations of my own which will surpass it. Thank you for your kind words though. It means a lot.

 

[Nanuk]

 

[cheap_walmart_art]

To be honest, I was speaking more hypothetically because I’m thicker skinned than that and I’ve got confidence in my artistic vision, ability to learn and openness to criticism. I‘m just angry about the fact that someone thinks it’s ok to talk to people like he does. If he spoke to me like that I’d just give him both barrels. Criticism fine, insulting superiority complex not ok.

I’ve been at this less than a year, I basically have no trees to post of any note. Infact, here is my best one.View attachment 308196

It’s not even my creation I just water and maintain it. Flaws galore and not a lot more than a mass produced elm. I like it though because it’s mine and it’s my first.

I just wonder how long it’ll take before I’m expected to put up or shut up and when I do put up because I wont shut up I’ll incur the wrath because all he wants to do is chuck insults around.

Much better than some of my beginning material. I go back and look at this thread and cringe https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/1st-year-juniper-progression-self-critique.34966/

Also, just for the record and not taking sides, but Smoke did the put up or shut up thing to me one time and I posted up a few of my trees. He made a rather neutral to positive comment about them and then moved on from the thread. I see more fights happen in posts that are all words and no pics. Then again, these are just my experiences here and I by no means read every thread, - but I have seen some doozies.

I like your elm. If it were mine, I would repot it deeper - cover most of those roots right up to the flare into the base of the trunk. Also, without knowing what the structure looks like under the canopy, I would be in favor of thinning it out a bit to define the branches and apex. I hope you post more as time goes on!

 

[Anthony]

Hmm picking on poor IBC
[ throws log on fire ]

From what Jim Lewis said on IBC - site active around 96
Al about 30 years in Bonsai ?- 4 years in 96 - would have been a newbie
IBC also on Facebook

Any Al postings on the original forum ?
[ Back in Time machine ]

Seen the European work on IBC lately ?

When you reach 25 years or so in Bonsai,
often after that you just chat with friends.
Relax.
Anthony

 

[AaronThomas]

Well... this is sort of turning into a tree thread.