Japanese White Pine from seed ( the next generations material)

[leatherback]

Great project!

 

[tanlu]

Expected response. wiring weakens the tree with micro fractures and added stress points requiring energy to heal in position. They will catch up over time. Similar response with root work during development. Avoiding the root work gives faster growth but creates work down the road that slows down the growth!

No wait list in place. My sales are limited to my location, personal shopping only during an appointment or one of my annual open house events. Do not ship or sell via the internet. Small one person operation with limited production.

Micro fractures sounds accurate. I had used the same wire to anchor the seedlings in their pots to wire in low trunk bends. I’ve learned my lesson to separate those two wires going forward. What is your fertilizer regime for the seedlings?

I completely understand about the local sales only. Much more sustainable from a operations perspective.

 

[River's Edge]

What is your fertilizer regime for the seedlings?

I am using small amounts of liquified Seaweed , Grow Pro, and Espoma Plant Tone for Evergreens. The organic granules from Epsom are applied on the soil surface. The other two products are alternated months with low doses. My approach is designed to ensure a broad range of nutrients and beneficial microorganisms is available. You will get some colour change with the Grow Pro. For that reason I would not use it exclusively.

I completely understand about the local sales only

The demand for well developed material is high within the Bonsai circles on a local, regional, national or international level. Finding good material for Bonsai is difficult at the best of times. Can be a lifetime spent searching!
But then it takes time, a lot of time if done right.

 

[PA_Penjing]

I have been thinking about doing the same thing. I think I'm convinced now

 

[River's Edge]

I understand there is a grower starting a similar project in Maine. It would be great if a lot of smaller growers took the time to produce some high quality pre-bonsai. Not really possible IMHO with larger commercial enterprises that need to focus on efficiency and profit. They are great to produce cuttings or seedlings for mass production though. Rarely would they have the expertise and manpower to take the time to develop higher quality outcomes.

 

[Mikea454]

I love everything about this thread, ty for all ypur work and knowledge sharing @River's Edge

 

[River's Edge]

I have been thinking about doing the same thing. I think I'm convinced now

I would recommend obtaining a copy of Julien Adams book on Growing Pines for Bonsai as an interesting perspective and varied approach with specific thoughts for White Pine. Not expensive and very worthwhile to benefit from his insight and expertise. It is one of those books that contain some valuable nuggets, applicable and adaptable to a variety of approaches.

 

[River's Edge]

I am looking to start JWP from seeds myself after searching for ungrafted JWP for years without success. Is it possible for you to share the seed source in Japan so I can purchase some myself? Thanks.

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[tanlu]

I would recommend obtaining a copy of Julien Adams book on Growing Pines for Bonsai as an interesting perspective and varied approach with specific thoughts for White Pine. Not expensive and very worthwhile to benefit from his insight and expertise. It is one of those books that contain some valuable nuggets, applicable and adaptable to a variety of approaches.

Yes, I appreciate his perspective on developing pre-bonsai because it’s a systematic one with an engineer’s lens.

 

[tanlu]

I understand there is a grower starting a similar project in Maine. It would be great if a lot of smaller growers took the time to produce some high quality pre-bonsai. Not really possible IMHO with larger commercial enterprises that need to focus on efficiency and profit. They are great to produce cuttings or seedlings for mass production though. Rarely would they have the expertise and manpower to take the time to develop higher quality outcomes.

once my kiddo is grown and we get more space, I’d like to start a project like this for JWP and perhaps native east coast US pine species like pitch pine, Virginia pine, jack pine, and short leaf pine.