2019 From seed

[PeaceLoveBonsai]

I tried short leaf pine from seed last year with some collected seeds. One sprouted but died shortly after. I'm thinking of ordering some seedlings.

I got some seedlings coming as well.

 

[BonsaiNaga13]

I got some seedlings coming as well.

Oh you're in St. Louis too small world

 

[Timbo]

Maybe it's where i got the Pond cypress seeds from but the first patch i had sprouted about 80% but i didn't overwinter them right and they died. Last 2 batches nothing sprouted. Going to try them again.
Working on Japanese Larch
Korean maple
Japanese Zelkova
Chinese Zelkova
Chinese elm
Siberian elm
Some Malus seeds for hardy apple trees
Hardy Kiwi
A few crabapples.
White Alder
Jack pine
Most of these are hard to find up here as seedlings/trees
More tropical seeds I can't get enough tropical's it seems!

 

[Timbo]

Red, Black, Scots and shortleaf. Let’s do this.

Where did you buy those seeds from? Just curious.

 

[PeaceLoveBonsai]

Sheffield’s

 

[Ranger33]

I’ve got choctawatchee sand pine (pinus clausa) breaking the soil as we speak! I don’t see a lot of info on them and I didn’t really have access to live specimens so I am very excited to give them a shot! That’s a fun list you’ve got! Best of luck!

 

[atlarsenal]

I potted 36 Lace Bark Chinese Elms today. These seeds were started the last part of November.

 

[Timbo]

I bought 1oz from Schumacher last year....no idea what to did with all of them....over 1k seeds I might throw some in a raised bed when we get another thaw in Jan. I like growing seedlings for some reason.

 

[eryk2kartman]

Im already in preparation for next spring, some seeds already in the fridge for last 3 months or so
Im planting a lot this year - about 20+ different maple types, some larches, prunuses, cryptomeria, sequoias, taxodium, juniperus, and many others, dont remember from top of my head
Dont want to jinx it but so far in Ireland we have nice and worm winter, so they might go to the greenhouse probably in February
I cant wait

2019 will be a good year!

BTW - is there any competition/contest planning for 2019 ?

 

[leatherback]

some seeds already in the fridge f

Why not use nature's fridge. Outside?

 

[eryk2kartman]

I do both fridge and outdoors(so far its very warm +12 celcius) and each in 2 types of different media, just in case one method will fail.
I also tested warm stratification prior to cold one, i was advised that germination ratio will increase so looking to see differences
I had a lot of seeds, anywhere between 200 - 1000 depends on the species so a lot of room for small experiments

 

[Timbo]

I got some more seeds today, I'm a little baffled by the directions to be honest. Taxodium mucronatum or Taxodium huegelii. It says to soak them in ethyl alcohol for 5 min and then cold strat for 90 days. It is a tree from Mexico and only grown in the lowest of the U.S.A, Why would you need to strat it? Seeds were collected in India.

Can't i just scarify it with clippers and put them under lights? This link just says scarify them https://repository.arizona.edu/handle/10150/554341 , Same thing here

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

I got some more seeds today, I'm a little baffled by the directions to be honest. Taxodium mucronatum or Taxodium huegelii. It says to soak them in ethyl alcohol for 5 min and then cold strat for 90 days. It is a tree from Mexico and only grown in the lowest of the U.S.A, Why would you need to strat it?

Can't i just scarify it with clippers and put them under lights? This link just says scarify them https://repository.arizona.edu/handle/10150/554341

Usually Sheffield's is pretty accurate. However, sometimes they use ''boilerplate'' instead of completely re-writing directions for every entry. Note, not all of Mexico is ''tropical'', they do get a winter, mild in low elevations, it can be pretty cold in the mountains. You probably get more uniform germination with a stratification. Without stratification sprouting might be more irregular. Also, in my experience, Bald cypress, T. disticum, the seeds don't sprout until the summer heats up. Temperatures need to be over 80 F in the daytime (over 27 C). Which for me doesn't happen until a month after the landscape trees leaf out, middle or even late June. I would expect the same from T. huegelii

 

[eryk2kartman]

So here is my full list of seeds that i will be planting in 2019
Most of them are already going through stratification and ive noticed some already got roots out so gladly planted them in the soil Great start to 2019

Acer argutum
Acer buergerianum
Acer caudatum ssp. ukurunduense
Acer circinatum
Acer diabolicum
Acer elegantulum
Acer griseum
Acer grosserii
Acer henryi
Acer mandshuricum
Acer micranthum
Acer palmatum
Acer palmatum var. atropurpureum
Acer pensylvanicum
Acer pseudosiebpldianum
Acer rubrum
Acer saccharum
Acer shirasawanum
Acer tataricum
Acer triflorum
Acer truncatum

Celastrus orbiculata
Celtis occidentalis
Cytisus scoparius
Juniperus chinensis
Taxodium distichum
Prunus armeniaca
Prunus avium
Prunus mahaleb
Cryptomeria japonica
Larix gmelinii var. principis-rupprechtii
Larix olgensis


and also planting some pine and spruce seeds that i collected in my area.

Prunus Armeniaca, some of Acer Diabolicum already got roots.

 

[Nybonsai12]

Planted out some of these seeds last night after 60 days in the fridge. Last night it was just a tiny tip starting to poke out. One day in the soil with heat mat and we have action! +5 bonsai points if you can name the species.

 

[Timbo]

So here is my full list of seeds that i will be planting in 2019
Most of them are already going through stratification and ive noticed some already got roots out so gladly planted them in the soil Great start to 2019

Acer argutum
Acer buergerianum
Acer caudatum ssp. ukurunduense
Acer circinatum
Acer diabolicum
Acer elegantulum
Acer griseum
Acer grosserii
Acer henryi
Acer mandshuricum
Acer micranthum
Acer palmatum
Acer palmatum var. atropurpureum
Acer pensylvanicum
Acer pseudosiebpldianum
Acer rubrum
Acer saccharum
Acer shirasawanum
Acer tataricum
Acer triflorum
Acer truncatum

Celastrus orbiculata
Celtis occidentalis
Cytisus scoparius
Juniperus chinensis
Taxodium distichum
Prunus armeniaca
Prunus avium
Prunus mahaleb
Cryptomeria japonica
Larix gmelinii var. principis-rupprechtii
Larix olgensis


and also planting some pine and spruce seeds that i collected in my area.

Prunus Armeniaca, some of Acer Diabolicum already got roots.

You need more Maple seeds!

 

[Timbo]

Planted out some of these seeds last night after 60 days in the fridge. Last night it was just a tiny tip starting to poke out. One day in the soil with heat mat and we have action! +5 bonsai points if you can name the species.

I was going to say Zelkova, but it doesn't look round enough.

 

[Bonsai Nut]

Why would you need to strat it? Seeds were collected in India.

@Timbo It's an riparian upland tree. They occur up to 8000 ft elevation. Many of the lower elevation trees may simply be seedlings of trees upstream. The ones growing in New Mexico can handle regular nighttime freezing temps.

 

[Nybonsai12]

I was going to say Zelkova, but it doesn't look round enough.

Correct! Good eye.

 

[Timbo]

@Timbo It's an riparian upland tree. They occur up to 8000 ft elevation. Many of the lower elevation trees may simply be seedlings of trees upstream. The ones growing in New Mexico can handle regular nighttime freezing temps.

OK

Correct! Good eye.

For more bonus points i'm going to guess Zelkova sinica...given the 60 day cold strat and Zelkova serrata is more of a round, darker seed if i remember right.
I haven't had much luck with Zelkova sinica, i had a few sprout last year.

Just as a help, i came across this the other day. This should work for all the Taxo's according to this study...I'm trying out 3 of the highest germination options and see what i get. Citric acid soak is suppose to be the best and reduce the need for stratification. http://hrijournal.org/doi/pdf/10.24266/0738-2898-25.1.1