The Identification Thread....perhaps?

[stu929]

I’ve seldom(If ever) run into an OL (Original Leo) MIS-identification...

And OL ID... is generally an “Ace in the Hole.”

That is fantastic to know!

 

[stu929]

Paging Leo, is Leo in the house ?

I was walking the treeline at the back of my property and noticed 3 or 4 of these there. The other weeds have died do these stuck out like a sore thumb. Still very green and alive while everything else seems to be going to sleep.


Is this an Amur honeysuckle? And should I try bonsai it or just kill it because of it being invasive?

 

[HorseloverFat]

Paging Leo, is Leo in the house ?

I was walking the treeline at the back of my property and noticed 3 or 4 of these there. The other weeds have died do these stuck out like a sore thumb. Still very green and alive while everything else seems to be going to sleep.


Is this an Amur honeysuckle? And should I try bonsai it or just kill it because of it being invasive?

Gotta draw a heptagon on the floor, burn palo santo wood, chanting @Leo in N E Illinois ! While holding powdered Raven’s beaks in your LEFT hand.

The Amur Honeysuckles that grow by me are distinguishable from the others by darker, Purplish stems/branches. But this is most likely specific to my climate AT time of observation.. “OL” (original Leo) will know... I’m “oL”... (other Leo)

 

[cbroad]

@stu929
Berries remind me of a viburnum of some sort and so do the leaves a little, but the leaves are mostly screaming a type of dogwood to me.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

I grabbed this today for $20 & the guy at the nursery didn't know what it was. It was interesting enough so I grabbed it. It makes a little green berry of sorts. Any ideas? Thanks.

I agree that this most likely is a Jerusalem Cherry. In which case it is basically a Solanum species, ornamental pepper plant. But it could be some other Texas desert plant. I'm not familiar with all the possibilities.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Paging Leo, is Leo in the house ?

I was walking the treeline at the back of my property and noticed 3 or 4 of these there. The other weeds have died do these stuck out like a sore thumb. Still very green and alive while everything else seems to be going to sleep.


Is this an Amur honeysuckle? And should I try bonsai it or just kill it because of it being invasive?

If the fruit is soft, translucent, juicy red berry, it is most likely Amur honeysuckle. I'm 90% positive that this is the identity.

If the berry has a firm skin, opaque, with dry, mealy yellow flesh inside, it could be an Ilex or a Cornus. All in all, I am pretty confident with Amur honeysuckle, Lonicera maackii, or one of the related Lonicera species.

To get OL, just use the @Leo in N E Illinois tag. It serves as the "bat signal", if I am not tied up elsewhere, I will respond.

Sometimes I am away for a day, or two.

Tied up, can be bad, or sometimes, can be good. Or is that over sharing?

 

[HorseloverFat]

Or is that over sharing?

Nah! I think it is, as Goldilocks would say, “juuuuust right.”

 

[stu929]

Gotta draw a heptagon on the floor, burn palo santo wood, chanting @Leo in N E Illinois ! While holding powdered Raven’s beaks in your LEFT hand.

The Amur Honeysuckles that grow by me are distinguishable from the others by darker, Purplish stems/branches. But this is most likely specific to my climate AT time of observation.. “OL” (original Leo) will know... I’m “oL”... (other Leo)

If the fruit is soft, translucent, juicy red berry, it is most likely Amur honeysuckle. I'm 90% positive that this is the identity.

If the berry has a firm skin, opaque, with dry, mealy yellow flesh inside, it could be an Ilex or a Cornus. All in all, I am pretty confident with Amur honeysuckle, Lonicera maackii, or one of the related Lonicera species.

To get OL, just use the @Leo in N E Illinois tag. It serves as the "bat signal", if I am not tied up elsewhere, I will respond.

Sometimes I am away for a day, or two.

Tied up, can be bad, or sometimes, can be good. Or is that over sharing?

I recognize dogwood trees and unless it's a dogwood bush I don't think it's a dogwood. I can take more photos but tomorrow.

 

[Clorgan]

Probably a very easy ID request for those who know pines (I'm pretty sure they're pines?!) they are not a species I've been interested in so far.

My parents are (hopefully) buying a house, and these two are in the front garden. May take some cuttings at some point!

Anyone offer a specific name?

 

[stu929]

Probably a very easy ID request for those who know pines (I'm pretty sure they're pines?!) they are not a species I've been interested in so far.

My parents are (hopefully) buying a house, and these two are in the front garden. May take some cuttings at some point!

Anyone offer a specific name?

I'm not great at this but I would guess a mugo?

 

[stu929]

Does anyone recognize these thorns ? Large tree growing out from under my parents deck, I was thinking about digging it up.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Looks a bit like European Buckthorn..

But a believe there’s also a “Pennsylvania Hawthorn” that would have similar thorns... but I don’t know AT ALL..

I DO know that European Buckthorn, or Rhamnus Cathartica, has bark AND thorns that look like that.. but I am NO where near certain.

 

[TN_Jim]

Does anyone recognize these thorns ? Large tree growing out from under my parents deck, I was thinking about digging it up.

Could be blackthorn Prunus spinosa, the distance between fat bud and thorn..lenticles also suggest roseaceae..?

 

[Paches]

Hi guys first time poster long time lurker I have a few trees I would like some help identifying, i have tried using these identification apps but they dont seem to be effective unless the plant has some seriously distinguishing feature, unfortunately my camera broke so I have to use some old pictures that I have if need be I could probably find someone to lend me one tomorrow #1
#2 I only have a pretty terrible picture of a leaf of this one . I got a bunch of free pots that a nursery was just throwing away and it was in one of them

There was a sapling in another pot that looks very similar just the leaves do not have as long of a tip could be because they are younger

#3 the bark used to cover the whole tree but goats got into it

Here are it's leaves sorry the wind was bad when I took the picture

I also have a few pines that I need help with but I can't find the pictures at the moment ,

Any ideas on the species above would be greatly appreciated

Ps. I Thank all you crazy, beautiful people for the wealth of knowledge you guys share on this site it's definitely the first place I look when I'm looking for info on something

 

[Clorgan]

I'm not great at this but I would guess a mugo?

Cheers for this - looks like you could be right!

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

@Paches - wow, another member from South Africa, welcome. SA is in the house.
I'm not real good on SA flora, or fauna for that matter. But I'll take a stab at it.

#1 - beats the heck out of me. It has to be something indigenous to SA or maybe an exotic from Australia. Its nothing I've ever seen in my wandering North America.
#2 - I'm pretty sure both #2's are Celtis, possibly Celtis africana. They grow fast and make good bonsai, very much similar to an Elm, at least horticulturally and bonsai style wise.
#3 - I would guess one of the South African species of Diospyros. Possibly Jackalberry. There are 2 or 3 species of Diospyros native to SA. Or it could be something like Kooboo berry. I forget the botanical latin name for Kooboo berry.

Are any of the other members from South Africa following this thread? Help?

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Does anyone recognize these thorns ? Large tree growing out from under my parents deck, I was thinking about digging it up.

You are in Pennsylvania, so I doubt it is Prunus spinosa. Prunus spinosa is strictly European species, though it could be in the USA as an invasive species.
One of the native hawthorns, genus Crataegus is a guess. Actually a hawthorn is my top guess.
Another possibility, if it has compound leaves in summer it might be a Gleditsia triacanthos, the Honey Locust.
Buckthorn form their thorns as aborted branches. The your not usually independent thorns. But buckthorn is certainly a maybe.

 

[stu929]

You are in Pennsylvania, so I doubt it is Prunus spinosa. Prunus spinosa is strictly European species, though it could be in the USA as an invasive species.
One of the native hawthorns, genus Crataegus is a guess. Actually a hawthorn is my top guess.
Another possibility, if it has compound leaves in summer it might be a Gleditsia triacanthos, the Honey Locust.
Buckthorn form their thorns as aborted branches. The your not usually independent thorns. But buckthorn is certainly a maybe.

We have had a lot of wind so almost no leaves on anything in my area now. I guess I'll have to wait till spring.

I have found a bunch of things I want to dig up though. Just wish I was better at ID. Worried the timing is bad to dig things up.

 

[TN_Jim]

You are in Pennsylvania, so I doubt it is Prunus spinosa. Prunus spinosa is strictly European species, though it could be in the USA as an invasive species.
One of the native hawthorns, genus Crataegus is a guess. Actually a hawthorn is my top guess.
Another possibility, if it has compound leaves in summer it might be a Gleditsia triacanthos, the Honey Locust.
Buckthorn form their thorns as aborted branches. The your not usually independent thorns. But buckthorn is certainly a maybe.

Leo you made me wonder if this is just a plant I’d read about and or know it personally here. Still could be both, not sure. Found three sites with range maps including usda with spinosa here and in PA, they all look relatively the same distribution-wise but interestingly with big gaps from state to state distribution.

I believe that this may be nursery trade influence also possibly crossed cultivar influenced, but if this is at work it’s possible in ornamental realm not just edible -I think we may have or have had spinosa at my work.

I’m also guessing that maybe some folks brought it initially to make liquor or wine and not for the ornament and habit..or both..? there’s some posh club I found in east tn called the blackthorn club, perhaps they take it sloe.

that thing under the deck ain’t in the pea family tho! -not trying to bet or anything

ongoing; any which way, thought provoked, rewarding, and inspired is a gross understatement literally across space and time, thank you immensely Original Leo. much love to you and all of yours

 

[Paches]

@Paches - wow, another member from South Africa, welcome. SA is in the house.
I'm not real good on SA flora, or fauna for that matter. But I'll take a stab at it.

#1 - beats the heck out of me. It has to be something indigenous to SA or maybe an exotic from Australia. Its nothing I've ever seen in my wandering North America.
#2 - I'm pretty sure both #2's are Celtis, possibly Celtis africana. They grow fast and make good bonsai, very much similar to an Elm, at least horticulturally and bonsai style wise.
#3 - I would guess one of the South African species of Diospyros. Possibly Jackalberry. There are 2 or 3 species of Diospyros native to SA. Or it could be something like Kooboo berry. I forget the botanical latin name for Kooboo berry.

Are any of the other members from South Africa following this thread? Help?

Thank you , these are definitely not SA species nothing that I have seen or heard of atleast

I moved onto a farm and the previous owners seem to get a bulk discount on saplings or something as they planted them everywhere I mean everywhere they didn't seem to have a plan as a lot of them are right on top of each other only in the gardens tho most of them are exotic with a few indigenous , the property it's self is typical bush veld all indigenous

1# I will try get pictures of the trunk and leaves today if it stops raining at some point

#2 good guess but I don't think Celtis africana the leaves look similar to the ones I have but a bit different I was thinking perhaps something like celtis australis