Should I get this pinion?

Is it the first, or second one?

Sorce
 
Here's the best pics I could get with my trees new resident causing a bit of a road block
 

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UPDATE:
Not a very big growth spurt this year, but it did put out some long plump and healthy looking needles.20160720_082639.jpg
Plus I'm finding back budding!20160720_082627.jpg
For being a desert pine, these things sure can drink a TON of water. I water it every other day and it is in a 15 gallon pot with mostly clay!

Aaron
 
They will take water if offered. Every other day???? It is surprising to me that it is still alive. With the kind of heat you have you should be watering at least once a day if not twice. I suspect that a lot of Pines die in your part of the country due to underwatering. You can argue a desert environment all you like but when you put a tree into a pot all of that goes out the window.
 
They will take water if offered. Every other day???? It is surprising to me that it is still alive. With the kind of heat you have you should be watering at least once a day if not twice. I suspect that a lot of Pines die in your part of the country due to underwatering. You can argue a desert environment all you like but when you put a tree into a pot all of that goes out the window.
Like I said it's in dense clay, I do check everything for water 3 times a day and this one normally gets it every other day, at which point it is still moist.

Aaron
 
UPDATE:
Not a very big growth spurt this year, but it did put out some long plump and healthy looking needles.View attachment 111356
Plus I'm finding back budding!View attachment 111357
For being a desert pine, these things sure can drink a TON of water. I water it every other day and it is in a 15 gallon pot with mostly clay!

Aaron

Looking good, Aaron. It's interesting, the back buds on wild trees are blue. Are all your adventitious buds the same color as your terminal buds? I'm still trying to get a collected piñon to survive, but I haven't been very careful about the root systems. I may have to give up on the land around my house and look for a place with natural rock basins, or at least higher rainfall.
 
I don't know this species. I looked it up at Wikipedia and found PINYON pine. This pine is said to be a single leaf pine. That is not what I see in the pictures of this spring?
Puzzled!
 
I don't know this species. I looked it up at Wikipedia and found PINYON pine. This pine is said to be a single leaf pine. That is not what I see in the pictures of this spring?
Puzzled!
That is pinus monophylla the single needle piñion. This is pinus edulis the regular piñion pine. There's several varieties, this one is the most common where I live. And pinyon is the white person way to spell it lol
Looking good, Aaron. It's interesting, the back buds on wild trees are blue. Are all your adventitious buds the same color as your terminal buds? I'm still trying to get a collected piñon to survive, but I haven't been very careful about the root systems. I may have to give up on the land around my house and look for a place with natural rock basins, or at least higher rainfall.
Yeah, all of the adventitious buds are the same as the terminal buds. I have noticed what you're talking about on other piñion at work, not sure why mine are different lol

Aaron
 
Probably because you have learned how to type a tilde. When you do that make sure you leave the "i" out before the "o" in Poinion. I really don't know what the difference is I have no experience with Pinion other than to drool over them from my travels out West over the last several years. Just be glad to have one or two or three or------ as many as possible. I think there is great potential in the tree is someone takes the initiative to master it.

I suspect with proper care and an aggresive fertilizing campaign the Pinion can be made into some really spectacular bonsai. The last time we were out West I tried to find nurseries that carried the tree to no avail.
 
Probably because you have learned how to type a tilde. When you do that make sure you leave the "i" out before the "o" in Poinion. I really don't know what the difference is I have no experience with Pinion other than to drool over them from my travels out West over the last several years. Just be glad to have one or two or three or------ as many as possible. I think there is great potential in the tree is someone takes the initiative to master it.

I suspect with proper care and an aggresive fertilizing campaign the Pinion can be made into some really spectacular bonsai. The last time we were out West I tried to find nurseries that carried the tree to no avail.
It's somewhat tough even here to find any with potential. Theres one nursery here but they normally just have little seedlings. I have this big one and one other that's probably about 10years old. Yamadori is probably the best option for material. I just got an oak from this website http://www.chobonsaiyamadori.com/pines.html . There's some nice Pinion on there for a decent price, you should check them out.

Aaron
 
There is a down side to harvesting Yamadori: Pinions are notorious for bores.
 
There is a down side to harvesting Yamadori: Pinions are notorious for bores.
That's true. The good Ole bark beetle. Every time I get a native plant I treat it with systemics and that does the trick, then a couple sprays of dormant oil in winter and spring. There's a lot of nasty bugs in the desert.

Aaron
 
Any update?
Not much has really changed (these things are awfully slow) but I did put a couple guy wires on lower branches to get them in their position. I plan on pruning maybe 1/3 off the top come January then let it be until spring 2018 when I'll repot into a smaller box. I'll post pics after work if you'd like?

Aaron
 
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