Overwintering of Podocarpus and Zanthoxylum

[Steinar]

yes... I believe it's the same type... though bark is little bit lighter than mine. My suggestion would be to let it go freely in spring... and try to trim it somewhere in the summer next year.

Excellent, just what I was planning. Thanks!

 

[rusticana]

Is the plant that Adamski77 posted a picture of a Maki? I have no ability to differentiate between variants of podocarpus.

Here are pictures of my plant, I'd appreciate it if you can help me identify it.

His is a real bonsai.
Yours looks identical to mine. Right down to the lighter shade of green on the new growth(same with his?) I assume its the maki one. The ones sold in the florests may not be the hardy form? I havent run a DNA test and dont have papers for it. Ha!
Looks like yours is inside for winter as well? If its always inside it'll need lots of light.
Mine is in a cool spot but with lots of natural light even at this darkest point of the year,
Mine I trunk chopped and most of the cuttings took. So Ive got a bit of an experiment going. Some inside under lights and others with the mother plant and the rest outside. I still havent stowed those away with some protection but it still hasnt frozen yet.

 

[Steinar]

His is a real bonsai.

Huh?

Yours looks identical to mine. Right down to the lighter shade of green on the new growth(same with his?) I assume its the maki one. The ones sold in the florests may not be the hardy form? I havent run a DNA test and dont have papers for it. Ha!
Looks like yours is inside for winter as well? If its always inside it'll need lots of light.
Mine is in a cool spot but with lots of natural light even at this darkest point of the year,
Mine I trunk chopped and most of the cuttings took. So Ive got a bit of an experiment going. Some inside under lights and others with the mother plant and the rest outside. I still havent stowed those away with some protection but it still hasnt frozen yet.

This one was sold by a bonsai grower, not a florist. But it doesn't look exactly the same as Adamski's, so maybe it is a maki. Hard to tell with all the varieties.

Anyway, it's outside all summer, and I will keep it cool and brightly lit for the winter. Then I'll see how it likes that.

 

[rusticana]

Huh?


This one was sold by a bonsai grower, not a florist. But it doesn't look exactly the same as Adamski's, so maybe it is a maki. Hard to tell with all the varieties.

Anyway, it's outside all summer, and I will keep it cool and brightly lit for the winter. Then I'll see how it likes that.

Just meant his is a more mature specimen. Mine is fairly old too but never grew till brought inside for winter. And then it took off. >1M by next fall. Then I trunk chopped it and thats when I got all the cuttings. I whatched a youtube tutorial and it said that was the best time? Certainly worked for me.

 

[Steinar]

Just meant his is a more mature specimen.

Yeah, I can kinda tell...

Mine is fairly old too but never grew till brought inside for winter. And then it took off. >1M by next fall. Then I trunk chopped it and thats when I got all the cuttings. I whatched a youtube tutorial and it said that was the best time? Certainly worked for me.

What temperature did you keep it at during winter?

 

[rusticana]

Just meant his is a more mature specimen. Mine is fairly old too but never grew till brought inside for winter. And then it took off. >1M by next fall. Then I trunk chopped it and thats when I got all the cuttings. I whatched a youtube tutorial and it said that was the best time? Certainly worked for me.

Yeah, I can kinda tell...



What temperature did you keep it at during winter?

My place is kept quite cool
The main plant is upstairs with some of its cuttings in a bright south facing window. That part of the house is not used much so very cool <15°c/60°f. Others are with house plants under lights where it's much warmer. 18-21°c/65-70°f. The others/controls are out in my windowed storage shed. So I have a bit of an experiment running. I'll apologize for the sideways photo.

 

[Steinar]

My place is kept quite cool
The main plant is upstairs with some of its cuttings in a bright south facing window. That part of the house is not used much so very cool <15°c/60°f. Others are with house plants under lights where it's much warmer. 18-21°c/65-70°f. The others/controls are out in my windowed storage shed. So I have a bit of an experiment running. I'll apologize for the sideways photo.

Just so I'm sure I understand - you're saying that your podocarpus did not grow much when outside for winter, but took off once you put it in this location?

 

[rusticana]

Just so I'm sure I understand - you're saying that your podocarpus did not grow much when outside for winter, but took off once you put it in this location?

Yes a stunted plant. Never died but never grew. Bringing it inside for winter "seemed" to change everything. I'm in the mildest part of Canada. For the record for my experiment I walked around with a thermometer and I've underestimated my temps. At least a ° higher. It was ÷5°c outside that day but BION >13° today. I was trying to retire my pomegranate tree by putting it outside. It's been a week and most of the leaves are still on it? Podocarpus, pomegranate, serisa and montezuma cypress (totally rare for a conifer) are totally doable for inside for winter bonsai. I have years of proof.

 

[rusticana]

In that picture I've actually removed most of the new growth. As I did just before it came in
Same with the seissa and montezuma ones they need triming even while ndoors continuously.. My old pomegranate that I decided to put to sleep never puts on much new growth while inside. But the cuttings do.