How much $$$ is Bjorn worth?

I know the intentions are innocent, but this thread is in poor taste. Its really no ones business.
I disagree completely. I'm sure a lot of us wish we could start a business like this. Even if we had the knowledge that Bjorn has, who has a couple of million dollars laying around for startup costs? A bank is likely not going to lend you much, because it will be difficult for your business plan to show a profit for many years.
 
I meant more as a personality rather than an artist, but even as an artist still. He has a growing following on YouTube, comparable to Peter Chan and Niegel Saunders. But he is half their age which means he has a lot more room to grow. He is the future of the hobby.
Bjorn is way heads and above either one of those two in knowledge
 
Bjorn is way heads and above either one of those two in knowledge
Knowledge is subjective and not easily measured. But even if he does, so what? All three of them have spread an immense amount of knowledge to an immense amount of people and that's more important in my opinion.
 
Let's kidnap him and find out!

If he has a guy for everything, which, with as many followers, he does....

All that can cost as little as $0 and a lot of elbow grease.

Trade a styling for bobcat use.
Trade a styling for the lumber man.
Trade a styling for the barrel man.

And hell, with direct connections to China...

Seriously though, of Walter Pall lived in Tennessee, he'd use Whiskey Barrels too!

There isn't much expense at all.

Sorce
 
First off its non of our business and Bjorn is great for the bonsai world.

Just to entertain the idea for fun.... there is no way he spent 2 million. My guess is $750k or less. 2 million will buy you a lot, a rural property in Tennessee probably costs 300k, build the nursery for 120k, buy trees for 200k. Something like that is my random pointless guess. haha!
 
I disagree completely. I'm sure a lot of us wish we could start a business like this. Even if we had the knowledge that Bjorn has, who has a couple of million dollars laying around for startup costs? A bank is likely not going to lend you much, because it will be difficult for your business plan to show a profit for many years.

That has nothing to do with discussing someones finances behind their back. And I doubt it would cost someone “a couple of million” to start a bonsai garden, especially in a state where property trends cheaper. Im sure he already had a healthy amount of stock.

Just my opinion.
 
Not sure what he spent, and I really do not care. He is building a business profesionally, lifitng the level of bonsai and showing some great trees. Just love it.

That being said... 1M loan for a business at the 1.2% interest rate we see now for years already.. 12K per year morgage interests. That is not bad for a professional business.
 
First off its non of our business and Bjorn is great for the bonsai world.

Just to entertain the idea for fun.... there is no way he spent 2 million. My guess is $750k or less. 2 million will buy you a lot, a rural property in Tennessee probably costs 300k, build the nursery for 120k, buy trees for 200k. Something like that is my random pointless guess. haha!
In retrospect, I wish I had named this thread, "Startup cost for a professional bonsai garden." I watched the Bjorn video I linked in the original post, and was so pleasantly flabbergasted at the quality of his new garden, and wondered how much money it would cost to put together something of that high quality. It's none of my business what Bjorn's net worth is, nor how much money his family has to help him out. But to put together a nursery of such high quality is no cheap thing.

Bjorn has all the qualities to become a bonsai great- the training and knowledge, ambition, resources, and youth to continue for a long time coming. Same with Ryan and some of our other new American bonsai pros. I guess I'm basically jealous lol :)
 
I know not of golds and riches, nor of my neighbor’s.....

But I do know that this..
especially in a state where property trends cheaper.

...is true. If you actively watch foreclosure listings.. you can purchase mountain property for practically nothing (comparatively).
 
I know not of golds and riches, nor of my neighbor’s.....

But I do know that this..


...is true. If you actively watch foreclosure listings.. you can purchase mountain property for practically nothing (comparatively).
Yeah.. It is insane the variation in prices. I have been looking to find an old farm with 1Ha (Say, 2.5 acres) for the last 6 years. Not come across one under 750K USD, let alone for a price that I could afford. Then I watch home makeover shows from the USA and I am shocked at the prices; Properties in places are given for free when you buy a Big mac, it feels like.
 
Yeah.. It is insane the variation in prices. I have been looking to find an old farm with 1Ha (Say, 2.5 acres) for the last 6 years. Not come across one under 750K USD, let alone for a price that I could afford. Then I watch home makeover shows from the USA and I am shocked at the prices; Properties in places are given for free when you buy a Big mac, it feels like.
It's a big country with a lot of land. Many areas are sparsely populated.
 
Bjorn has made himself a public figure, I don't think there's anything wrong with wondering about his finances and talking about it.
Especially coming from someone in the hobby who is probably thinking about it wistfully.

If you're sitting around with friends talking about another friends finances, then that's a different story.
 
Yeah.. It is insane the variation in prices. I have been looking to find an old farm with 1Ha (Say, 2.5 acres) for the last 6 years. Not come across one under 750K USD, let alone for a price that I could afford. Then I watch home makeover shows from the USA and I am shocked at the prices; Properties in places are given for free when you buy a Big mac, it feels like.
Same. Our plan is to buy a field for 50k gbp, if we’re lucky, and stick our boat on it if we can get permissions. No chance of getting Bjorn’s setup without very significant investment round here.
 
Yeah.. It is insane the variation in prices. I have been looking to find an old farm with 1Ha (Say, 2.5 acres) for the last 6 years. Not come across one under 750K USD, let alone for a price that I could afford. Then I watch home makeover shows from the USA and I am shocked at the prices; Properties in places are given for free when you buy a Big mac, it feels like.

My family owns a little piece of that mountain pie (real little)about 5 acres (just land) broken up between two parcels near Gatlinburg.. I am strongly considering relocation. :)
 
Interestingly, I heard it mentioned once in one of the Art of Japan videos by Bjorn, but he is a very well educated guy. He has an advanced degree, I forget but either Masters, or possibly PhD, I believe in economics. I believe Bjorn was working for a bank at least part time while he was living in Japan. Clearly he loves bonsai, and he is pretty sharp, but we do not know how he put together his finances, nor should we. It is clear he worked hard and made it happen.

A nursery, retail business or a bonsai business must be located on property that is appropriate in price and tax structure appropriate for the business. You can only generate so many dollars per square foot. If the mortgage & taxes total more per square foot than the property can generate, the business will fail. A 2 acre bonsai nursery can not afford to be on high priced real estate in an urban center. You simply can not sell enough shimpaku to cover your per square foot overhead. Ideal location would be cheap land within about 90 minute drive of a population of at least 1 million people. Most "hobby growers" will be happy to drive up to about 90 minutes to visit a specialty vendor. I think Bjorn has sited his business in a near ideal area. Out far enough to have lower property overhead costs, yet within the "acceptable distance for a specialty destination". The man is quite smart.
 
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