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Inflation was caused by the economic crash caused by the pandemic. It shut down all demand and supply lines. They had to be recreated. Inflation and government debt have nothing to do with each other. Please educate yourself on economics 101 before you give an opinion. BTW, what has Trump done to combat inflation ever since he assumed office? Did he sign an executive order to lower egg prices?

A lot of smart things can be said about the US federal government. But saying the US cannot afford it, is false.
Your government debt has become bigger the last 20 years because of tax cuts, the financial bailout, pandemic relief, and because of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
 
BrianBay9 said:
I don't think you'll see much agreement about anything.
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Very true, but I've not heard anybody anywhere saying that things have been going well. If we can all at least find something to agree on then the next steps are easier to palate, in theory. Everyone starts from a place of common ground.

I think when it becomes normal for people start calling other people fascists simply because they disagree with an idea then something is truly rotten. I don't know that anybody in the western world has really experienced any form of true fascism for 80 years. I always thought fascism was censorship and the stifling of ideas. That only seems to be from one direction these days.
 
You don't need to be a fascist to commit a coup, betray your country, violate the constitution or your oath of office, commit crimes, or be a dictator. Trump isn't a fascist because he isn't ideologically motivated.
 
Woocash said:
Very true, but I've not heard anybody anywhere saying that things have been going well.
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Jordan Peterson says things are objectively better now than they ever have been in all of human history, so that's at least one person who thinks things are going well.
 
Gabler said:
Jordan Peterson says things are objectively better now than they ever have been in all of human history, so that's at least one person who thinks things are going well.
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Objectively, yes. I think it's Steven Pinker that champions this notion. It always feels like things aren't as good as it used to be, in spite of progression. I think stats have backed up the theory until the last few years in terms of health, wealth, crime, education and overall wellbeing, but I think those statistics have tailed off over the last decade, however.
 
Glaucus said:
Inflation was caused by the economic crash caused by the pandemic. It shut down all demand and supply lines. They had to be recreated. Inflation and government debt have nothing to do with each other. Please educate yourself on economics 101 before you give an opinion. BTW, what has Trump done to combat inflation ever since he assumed office? Did he sign an executive order to lower egg prices?

A lot of smart things can be said about the US federal government. But saying the US cannot afford it, is false.
Your government debt has become bigger the last 20 years because of tax cuts, the financial bailout, pandemic relief, and because of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
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Great link below even from a liberal propaganda platform that there is data to support the downsizing of a government can absolutely impact inflation in a good way. The Argentinean people delt with decades of financially irresponsible spending by the liberal government and it took them saying we can't take this massive high inflation and we have to make a change.

Also the pandemic is another great example of why the federal government needs to audited and downsized. The "government experts" shouldn't be allowed to do their highly dangerous scientific research unless they can be safe and secure. The fact that multiple government agencies even can't decide if it came from a lab or not is just a massive failure. This type of research should be done away from China so when things do go bad we can absolutely investigate without and obstructions.




 
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Glaucus said:
Inflation was caused by the economic crash caused by the pandemic. It shut down all demand and supply lines. They had to be recreated. Inflation and government debt have nothing to do with each other. Please educate yourself on economics 101 before you give an opinion. BTW, what has Trump done to combat inflation ever since he assumed office? Did he sign an executive order to lower egg prices?

A lot of smart things can be said about the US federal government. But saying the US cannot afford it, is false.
Your government debt has become bigger the last 20 years because of tax cuts, the financial bailout, pandemic relief, and because of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
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"Follow the Science"....yes the Science and expert that had to be pardoned to escape justice.
 
Michael P said:
You might ask how women and transsexuals in the military feel. Or parents trying to get gender affirming care for their children. It is always the most marginalized people who feel it first.
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How many trans gender people are there in places where people wonder where their next meal is coming from? Try getting gender affirming care for kids in Russia, China, any Islamic country or anywhere else that doesn't have a massive white middle class. This really is not a good choice of argument.
 
Glaucus said:
You don't need to be a fascist to commit a coup, betray your country, violate the constitution or your oath of office, commit crimes, or be a dictator. Trump isn't a fascist because he isn't ideologically motivated.
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If you truly believe Trump did any of those things then you really are captured. If I were one to pray, I would for you.
 
Joelshack2362 said:
Great link below even from a liberal propaganda platform that there is data to support the downsizing of a government can absolutely impact inflation rather good or bad. The argentine people delt with decades of financially irresponsible spending by the liberal government and it took them say we can't take this massively high inflation and we have to make a change.

Also the pandemic is another great example of why the federal government needs to audited and downsized. The "government experts" shouldn't be allowed to do their highly dangerous scientific research unless they can be safe and secure. The fact that multiple government agencies even can't decide if it came from a lab or not is just a massive failure. This type of research should be done away from China so when things do go bad we can absolutely investigate without and obstructions.




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It can. If you fund the government deficit by printing money. Government debt and deficit are two different things. And if you fund it by loaning money, you aren't necessarily printing it.

Also, you are linking to an article about Milei. Argentina had 230% inflation in 2024 and 133% in 2023. How much inflation did the US have in those years?


Dr. Fauci saved the lives of tens of millions of people, by convincing GW Bush to contain HIV/AIDS in Africa, and prevent US deaths to the disease in that way. What exactly have you done?
The absolute gall one can have in suggesting Fauci committed a crime, is insane. It makes you a horrible person.
 
If you're leaving the site because you chose to participate in this one thread and you think that's reasonable, you may need some help with the rational part of your brain being broken. There are way more non-political threads to interact with.

Feel free to stop following this thread and ignore it like you ignore the daily destruction of the constitution and the new teapot dome scandals popping up each day.
 
Glaucus said:
It can. If you fund the government deficit by printing money. Government debt and deficit are two different things. And if you fund it by loaning money, you aren't necessarily printing it.

Also, you are linking to an article about Milei. Argentina had 230% inflation in 2024 and 133% in 2023. How much inflation did the US have in those years?


Dr. Fauci saved the lives of tens of millions of people, by convincing GW Bush to contain HIV/AIDS in Africa, and prevent US deaths to the disease in that way. What exactly have you done?
The absolute gall one can have in suggesting Fauci committed a crime, is insane. It makes you a horrible person.
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So his data that guided the world through the pandemic wouldn't stand up in court?
 
Woocash said:
If you truly believe Trump did any of those things then you really are captured. If I were one to pray, I would for you.
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Here is the central issue. We do not agree on a common source for factual information. The "democratization" of journalism that followed the introduction of social media meant that everyone is a journalist, but apparently none have an editor insisting on fact checking.

If we cannot agree on the facts, we cannot hope to find a commonly acceptable solution.
 
BrianBay9 said:
Here is the central issue. We do not agree on a common source for factual information. The "democratization" of journalism that followed the introduction of social media meant that everyone is a journalist, but apparently none have an editor insisting on fact checking.

If we cannot agree on the facts, we cannot hope to find a commonly acceptable solution.
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The problem is, something DOGE is highlighting, that when the traditional organisations for providing news are part or wholly funded by USAID and other organisations with vested interests for providing a certain narrative, then no one can trust what they say and if you can't trust the so called institutions to tell you the truth then where do you go for it? I fully agree with what you say though.

Like many people, I'm not pro trump so much as anti BS and when time after time after time again the accusations and twisted narratives are disproven or exposed with just a little bit of digging then all it does is further galvanise people against the establishment.

To be honest I think they lost us during COVID. I was all in until then.
 
penumbra said:
I am leaving this site now, at least for a while.
I will miss the site.
I will not miss this post. I live it every day. This site was my only escape from the hateful mess we are in.
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Please don't. The "ignore " button works beautifully . We all need this space.
 
Admittedly I don't keep up on this news. In the agencies where there is seemingly a workforce deficit, are new positions being added, or it is just cut everywhere?
 
BrianBay9 said:
Here is the central issue. We do not agree on a common source for factual information. The "democratization" of journalism that followed the introduction of social media meant that everyone is a journalist, but apparently none have an editor insisting on fact checking.

If we cannot agree on the facts, we cannot hope to find a commonly acceptable solution.
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Bingo!
 
Joelshack2362 said:
Some people need some time away from the internet, social media, and mainstream media the constant pounding on their brains is showing through here on the site. They need to go outside and enjoy some sun or get out of their basements and get some fresh air away from these things.
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Yup.
Repotting season in full swing this week out on the left coast! 👌
 
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