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This might be the most political non political post I’ve ever read. Maybe the president will be the new director of the National Arboretum too since he’s going all in on the Kennedy Center🤷🏻‍♂️

…maybe he never saw a tree he liked at the arb so he’ll get rid of all that imported Japanese nonsense.

At this time I’d be concerned about what my donations would actually go to.
 
This might be the most political non political post I’ve ever read. Maybe the president will be the new director of the National Arboretum too since he’s going all in on the Kennedy Center🤷🏻‍♂️

…maybe he never saw a tree he liked at the arb so he’ll get rid of all that imported Japanese nonsense.

At this time I’d be concerned about what my donations would actually go to.
The donations go to the National Bonsai Foundation a charitable non Profit organization (501 3 c).
 
I understand that the government doesn't give us any direct input on how our taxes are spent, and I guess that was sort of my point, however ineffectively it was made.

Worry not about tomorrow, for tomorrow has its own trouble.

A house divided against itself will not stand.


Not to be preachy, but @Deep Sea Diver is right. Our government is separating us by class, race, values, culture, etc. The solution is not necessarily to rise up together against the government, but to come together as a people, as a nation, in love and compassion for each other, rather than rallying against each other, so that we can discover whoever it is rattling our collective cages.
 
maybe I’m being naive, but couldn’t the DOGE savings be used to fund legitimate U.S. institutions like this? Still hoping the baby does not have go along with the bath water.
Unfortunately not the way the federal budget works. And these are budget cuts made to reduce spending. They’re not being reallocated from what I understand
 
This is such a poor way to think about it and I don't recommend poaching trees on public land.

This will create less opportunity for yamadori because national forests are easy to get small tree (often firewood) permits for will be under private management. There will be less people to issue permits. Private contractors are going to be doing everything to maximize profits off the tax dollars of the American people which usually means clear cutting and replanting. This makes it more expensive in the long run. My family hired a private timber company to selective cut our family land and they clear cut the land and ran off with our money.

The people in the forestry department manage and monitor these companies to make sure they aren't ripping us off. They do really important work of properly managing the federal forests of the United States which also serves as great camping and hunting areas for all Americans.

Andy Smith started off in the forestry department doing core sampling of trees to help determine their age. Now he's one of the most prolific yamadori sellers in the US.

We are going to lose a whole generation of tree enthusiasts and scientists.
This sentiment of "easy to get permits from national forests" really only applies out West. I've spoken with Andy about it directly. Currently corresponding with multiple states on the east coast for collecting legally, they make the process an enormous pain in the ass. Ongoing discussions with rangers in NC and WV for over two years. To do my collecting legally in Vermont next month, I have to provide the state with proof of worker's compensation and proof of indemnity insurance...
 
You have a foreigner, who worked as an illegal immigrant in the US, and now is the richest person on the world based on a meme stock, and whose loyalties may lie with China or Russia, deliberately destroying your federal government. That's Elon Musk. He doesn't have an official government job. There is no oversight from congress. And what Elon has been doing has already been ruled illegal by your courts.
They have 19 year old kids who didn't even go through college yet in charge of just firing thousands of federal employees, all at random. These people are suddenly in video calls, and they don't know anything.
They just sent out emails to every government employee, asking them to quit their job with half a year worth of pay as a bonus. And government employees just report these emails as phishing emails to their IT departments, as the emails were so odd and poorly worded.

Funding for all kinds of government projects is just paused. American scientists cannot talk anymore to scientists in other countries. Databases with important data, like DNA sequences or climate models, are being shut down randomly.
If Elon Musk shuts down ncbi.gov tomorrow, we literally cannot do any life science research anymore. And the same data that allows for research into climate change, allows for weather predictions.
Without the US data, we cannot predict the weather in Europe, Asia or Africa as accurately anymore. Which is bad for agriculture. Bad for air and sea travel. And bad for storm damage and death prevention.
Food aid, with American flags on it, intended for areas where there may be a famine is rotting in warehouses, because it is not 'efficient' to give hungry people American-branded food aid.
People with HIV in Africa could no longer get their medicines from local clinics because Elon Musk shut them down.
All NIH research into infectious diseases, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, it is all at risk of being shut down.
In the mean time, Elon Musk is bragging about how he shut down criminal institutions. And lying on twitter about fraud he claims to have discovered.
When the US courts have told the Trump administration that they don't have the authority to cancel congressional mandated funding, their team of lawyers don't even have a legal argument. This is going to be pushed to the Supreme Court. And Trump will put tremendous pressure on them, announcing publicly he will just ignore their ruling. And there is literally nothing to stop Trump because SCOTUS are just a bunch of old people in silly robes because Trump is supposed to enforce the laws and the rulings made by SCOTUS. And congress is supposed to be a check on Trump. But the GOP congress is missing in action, voting in the worst people imaginable to head several branches of government. A ton of people at the DoJ have already resigned in protest. And Russia and China may already have a ton of US government data, that Musk stole.

USAID provided 42% of all humanitarian aid globally. China and Russia are already prepared to step in and replace the US, and gain political influence. You may not care if millions in say Africa will starve from famine or malaria. But Musk is destroying US soft power that US politicians and diplomats took decades to build up. From both of your political parties.
Just today, CNN reported that Musk fired about 300 nuclear weapon engineers from the DoE. And then rehired some of them, after they found out who they actually fired.
That's how stupid and dangerous this is. Yeah, it sucks that a bonsai museum gets no funding. But that's not really important. I told some of you before that if you go through with Trump, and the worst case happens, the only good your bonsai would be is for firewood.
Those bonsai museums should be the least of your worries.
Those Elon tech kids, sometimes foreigners with a BSc in IT just fresh out of college, are literally going ctrl + F through federal databases, and canceling everything with 'equity', 'inclusion', 'equality' etc, as a keyword. As a result, a ton of small farmers already got their government subsidies canceled. And tons of people who thought they were getting a government job, sold their old house, moved and bought a new house, are now told they won't actually get the job, because of 'DEI".

In the mean time, you have JD Vance meet with the literal neonazi party of Germany, trying to help them win the upcoming election in Germany. JD Vance literally had the gall to tell European security and defence experts that China and Russia do not pose a threat. But that the real threat is 'the enemy within' in Europe itself, namely woke politics or something. And that we in Europe have weak democratizes if Romania needs to redo an election after Russian interference. When Vance himself can't even admit that Trump lost 2020 and Trump released all the Jan6 insurrectionists, even the very violent ones. And then he added that Europe needs to defend Ukraine, but Europe and Ukraine both get no say in any Ukraine-Russia peace deal.
You have no idea how much already Trump has pissed off all US allies. And made champagne bottles pop in Beijing and Moscow.

Your government was couped by traitors, controlled by Russia and China. They are breaking all your laws. And they have already said that if courts rule again that they are abusing their power, they will just ignore the court.
You should call your state representatives and voice your concerns. Especially about Elon Musk. And about how damaging the federal government is affecting your local economy. Or even your bonsai museum or local farmers.
I think there should be a general strike, demanding for Trump and Musk to both step down and be arrested. And for SCOTUS and congress to come together and appoint a Gore & Romney interim government charged with fixing the damage DOGE did, prosecuting Trump and Musk, and organizing new elections. Gore is the only guy that won an election and was never president. And he can work with Romney, a GOP presidential candidate, to fix your country.
Because there is no way this Trump presidency is going to get better.

We didn't know at the start if Trump was just running to not go to jail. And he would just go golfing most of the time, if elected. But it turns out we are truly in a worse case scenario where the people around Trump are actually quite competent, and carrying out Project 2025 to the letter. And on top of that, we have Elon Musk who was a private citizen is basically taking over the government.

Oh, and I even forget the part where Canadians absolutely hate your guts now for that tariff stunt, which is still on the table btw. Or Trump wanting to bomb Mexico or invade Greenland and Panama.


Even if SCOTUS steps up and Trump listens. Even if Trump and Musk have a falling out. Even if Trump decides this is not so good after all, because the financial markets responded. And that he should go back more to playing a reality tv president. Then this craziness is still all baked into the cake. The Overton window has shifted by an enormous amount.


It is perfectly allowed for congress to review some of the more woke policies inside these departments. Or to just do less foreign aid. Which I would disagree with. But who cares, because I am not American. And the president can work with congress to do so. But that's not what is happening. Having the richest man in the world, who is an admitted drug addict and suffers from mental illness, just pull pieces out of your precious federal government, as if it is a Jenga tower, to see if it all collapses, yes or no, is not just horrible, but also criminal. BTW, there is also no need, because the US can easily afford the current federal government. This is way beyond a simple constitutional crisis.
 
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You have a foreigner, who worked as an illegal immigrant in the US, and now is the richest person on the world based on a meme stock, and whose loyalties may lie with China or Russia, deliberately destroying your federal government. That's Elon Musk. he doesn't have an official government job. There is no oversight from congress. And what Elon has been doing has already been ruled illegal by your courts.
They have 19 year old kids who didn't even go through college yet in charge of just firing thousands of federal employees, all at random. These people are suddenly in video calls, and they don't know anything.
They just sent out emails to every government employee, asking them to quit their job with half a year world of pay as a bonus. And government employees just report these emails as phishing emails to their IT departments, as the emails were so odd and poorly worded.

Funding for all kinds of government projects is just paused. American scientists cannot talk anymore to scientists in other countries. Databases with important data, like DNA sequences or climate models, are being shut down randomly.
If Elon Musk shuts down ncbi.gov tomorrow, we literally cannot do any life science research anymore. And the same data that allows for research into climate change, allows for weather predictions.
Without the US data, we cannot predict the weather in Europe, Asia or Africa as accurately anymore. Which is bad for agriculture. Bad for air and sea travel. And bad for storm damage and death prevention.
Food aid, with American flags on it, intended for areas where there may be a famine is rotting in warehouses, because it is not 'efficient' to give hungry people American-branded food aid.
People with HIV in Africa could no longer get their medicines from local clinics because Elon Musk shut them down.
All NIH research into infectious diseases, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, it is all at risk of being shut down.
In the mean time, Elon Musk is bragging about how he shut down criminal institutions. And lying on twitter about fraud he claims to have discovered.
When the US courts have told the Trump administration that they don't have the authority to cancel congressional mandated funding, their team of lawyers don't even have a legal argument. This is going to be pushed to the Supreme Court. And Trump will put tremendous pressure on them, announcing publicly he will just ignore their ruling. And there is literally nothing to stop Trump because SCOTUS are just a bunch of old people in silly robes because Trump is supposed to enfore the laws and the rulings made by SCOTUS. And congress is supposed to be a check on Trump. But the GOP congress is missing in action, voting in the worst people imaginable to head several branches of government.

USAID provided 42% of all humanitarian aid globally. China and Russia are already prepared to step in and replace the US, and gain political influence. You may not care if millions in say Africa will starve from famine or malaria. But Musk is destroying US soft power that US politicians and diplomats took decades to build up. From both of your political parties.
Just today, CNN reported that Musk fired about 300 nuclear weapon engineers from the DoE. And then rehired some of them, after they found out who they actually fired.
That's how stupid and dangerous this is. Yeah, it sucks that a bonsai museum gets no funding. But that's not really important. I told some of you before that if you go through with Trump, and the worst case happens, the only good your bonsai would be is for firewood.
Those bonsai museums should be the least of your worries.
Those Elon tech kids, sometimes foreigners with a BSc in IT just fresh out of college, are literally going ctrl + F through federal databases, and canceling everything with 'equity', 'inclusion', 'equality' etc, as a keyword. As a result, a ton of small farmers already got their government subsidies canceled. And tons of people who thought they were getting a government job, sold their old house, moved and bought a new house, are now told they won't actually get the job, because of 'DEI".

In the mean time, you have JD Vance meet with the literal neonazi party of Germany, trying to help them win the upcoming election in Germany. JD Vance literally had the gall to tell European security and defence experts that China and Russia do not pose a threat. But that the real threat is 'the enemy within', namely woke politics or something. And then he added that Europe needs to defend Ukraine, but Europe and Ukraine both get no say in any Ukraine-Russia peace deal.

Your government was couped by traitors, controlled by Russia and China. They are breaking all your laws. And they have already said that if courts rule again that they are abusing their power, they will just ignore the court.
You should call your state representatives and voice your concerns. Especially about Elon Musk. And about how damaging the federal government is affecting your local economy. Or even your bonsai museum or local farmers.
I think there should be a general strike, demanding for Trump and Musk to both step down and be arrested. And for SCOTUS and congress to come together and appoint a Gore & Romney interim government charged with fixing the damage DODGE did, prosecuting Trump and Musk, and organizing new elections. Gore is the only guy that won an election and was never president. And he can work with Romney, a GOP presidential candidate, to fix your country.
Because there is no way this Trump presidency is going to get better.

We didn't know at the start if Trump was just running to not go to jail. And he would just go golfing most of the time, if elected. But it turns out we are truly in a worse case scenario where the people around Trump are actually quite competent, and carrying out Project 2025 to the letter. And on top of that, we have Elon Musk who was a private citizen is basically taking over the government.

Oh, and I even forget the part where Canadians absolutely hate your guts now for that tarriff stunt, which is still on the table btw. Or Trump wanting to bomb Mexico or invade Greenland and Panama.


Even if SCOTUS steps up and Trump listens. Even if Trump and Musk have a falling out. Even if Trump decides this is not so good after all, because the financial markets responded. And that he should go back more to playing a reality tv president. Then this craziness is still all baked into the cake. The Overton window has shifted by an enormous amount.


It is perfectly allowed for congress to review some of the more woke policies inside these departments. Or to just do less foreign aid. Which I would disagree with. But who cares, because I am not American. And the president can work with congress to do so. But that's not what is happening. Having the richest man in the world, who is an admitted drug addict and suffers from mental illness, just pull pieces out of your precious federal government, as if it is a Jenga tower, to see if it all collapses, yes or no, is not just horrible, but also criminal. BTW, there is also no need, because the US can easily afford the current federal government. This is way beyond a simple constitutional crisis.
Well, if it’s possible to hear a mic drop over the web… I think I did.
 
You have a foreigner, who worked as an illegal immigrant in the US, and now is the richest person on the world based on a meme stock, and whose loyalties may lie with China or Russia, deliberately destroying your federal government. That's Elon Musk. He doesn't have an official government job. There is no oversight from congress. And what Elon has been doing has already been ruled illegal by your courts.
They have 19 year old kids who didn't even go through college yet in charge of just firing thousands of federal employees, all at random. These people are suddenly in video calls, and they don't know anything.
They just sent out emails to every government employee, asking them to quit their job with half a year worth of pay as a bonus. And government employees just report these emails as phishing emails to their IT departments, as the emails were so odd and poorly worded.

Funding for all kinds of government projects is just paused. American scientists cannot talk anymore to scientists in other countries. Databases with important data, like DNA sequences or climate models, are being shut down randomly.
If Elon Musk shuts down ncbi.gov tomorrow, we literally cannot do any life science research anymore. And the same data that allows for research into climate change, allows for weather predictions.
Without the US data, we cannot predict the weather in Europe, Asia or Africa as accurately anymore. Which is bad for agriculture. Bad for air and sea travel. And bad for storm damage and death prevention.
Food aid, with American flags on it, intended for areas where there may be a famine is rotting in warehouses, because it is not 'efficient' to give hungry people American-branded food aid.
People with HIV in Africa could no longer get their medicines from local clinics because Elon Musk shut them down.
All NIH research into infectious diseases, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, it is all at risk of being shut down.
In the mean time, Elon Musk is bragging about how he shut down criminal institutions. And lying on twitter about fraud he claims to have discovered.
When the US courts have told the Trump administration that they don't have the authority to cancel congressional mandated funding, their team of lawyers don't even have a legal argument. This is going to be pushed to the Supreme Court. And Trump will put tremendous pressure on them, announcing publicly he will just ignore their ruling. And there is literally nothing to stop Trump because SCOTUS are just a bunch of old people in silly robes because Trump is supposed to enforce the laws and the rulings made by SCOTUS. And congress is supposed to be a check on Trump. But the GOP congress is missing in action, voting in the worst people imaginable to head several branches of government. A ton of people at the DoJ have already resigned in protest. And Russia and China may already have a ton of US government data, that Musk stole.

USAID provided 42% of all humanitarian aid globally. China and Russia are already prepared to step in and replace the US, and gain political influence. You may not care if millions in say Africa will starve from famine or malaria. But Musk is destroying US soft power that US politicians and diplomats took decades to build up. From both of your political parties.
Just today, CNN reported that Musk fired about 300 nuclear weapon engineers from the DoE. And then rehired some of them, after they found out who they actually fired.
That's how stupid and dangerous this is. Yeah, it sucks that a bonsai museum gets no funding. But that's not really important. I told some of you before that if you go through with Trump, and the worst case happens, the only good your bonsai would be is for firewood.
Those bonsai museums should be the least of your worries.
Those Elon tech kids, sometimes foreigners with a BSc in IT just fresh out of college, are literally going ctrl + F through federal databases, and canceling everything with 'equity', 'inclusion', 'equality' etc, as a keyword. As a result, a ton of small farmers already got their government subsidies canceled. And tons of people who thought they were getting a government job, sold their old house, moved and bought a new house, are now told they won't actually get the job, because of 'DEI".

In the mean time, you have JD Vance meet with the literal neonazi party of Germany, trying to help them win the upcoming election in Germany. JD Vance literally had the gall to tell European security and defence experts that China and Russia do not pose a threat. But that the real threat is 'the enemy within' in Europe itself, namely woke politics or something. And that we in Europe have weak democratizes if Romania needs to redo an election after Russian interference. When Vance himself can't even admit that Trump lost 2020 and Trump released all the Jan6 insurrectionists, even the very violent ones. And then he added that Europe needs to defend Ukraine, but Europe and Ukraine both get no say in any Ukraine-Russia peace deal.
You have no idea how much already Trump has pissed off all US allies. And made champagne bottles pop in Beijing and Moscow.

Your government was couped by traitors, controlled by Russia and China. They are breaking all your laws. And they have already said that if courts rule again that they are abusing their power, they will just ignore the court.
You should call your state representatives and voice your concerns. Especially about Elon Musk. And about how damaging the federal government is affecting your local economy. Or even your bonsai museum or local farmers.
I think there should be a general strike, demanding for Trump and Musk to both step down and be arrested. And for SCOTUS and congress to come together and appoint a Gore & Romney interim government charged with fixing the damage DOGE did, prosecuting Trump and Musk, and organizing new elections. Gore is the only guy that won an election and was never president. And he can work with Romney, a GOP presidential candidate, to fix your country.
Because there is no way this Trump presidency is going to get better.

We didn't know at the start if Trump was just running to not go to jail. And he would just go golfing most of the time, if elected. But it turns out we are truly in a worse case scenario where the people around Trump are actually quite competent, and carrying out Project 2025 to the letter. And on top of that, we have Elon Musk who was a private citizen is basically taking over the government.

Oh, and I even forget the part where Canadians absolutely hate your guts now for that tariff stunt, which is still on the table btw. Or Trump wanting to bomb Mexico or invade Greenland and Panama.


Even if SCOTUS steps up and Trump listens. Even if Trump and Musk have a falling out. Even if Trump decides this is not so good after all, because the financial markets responded. And that he should go back more to playing a reality tv president. Then this craziness is still all baked into the cake. The Overton window has shifted by an enormous amount.


It is perfectly allowed for congress to review some of the more woke policies inside these departments. Or to just do less foreign aid. Which I would disagree with. But who cares, because I am not American. And the president can work with congress to do so. But that's not what is happening. Having the richest man in the world, who is an admitted drug addict and suffers from mental illness, just pull pieces out of your precious federal government, as if it is a Jenga tower, to see if it all collapses, yes or no, is not just horrible, but also criminal. BTW, there is also no need, because the US can easily afford the current federal government. This is way beyond a simple constitutional crisis.
Nice conspiracy theories i love people who think outside the box. Definitely alot of fear mongering in your theories but only time will tell.
 
Nice conspiracy theories i love people who think outside the box. Definitely alot of fear mongering in your theories but only time will tell.

All the things I mentioned already happened. I can provide receipts. Why are you replying to my wall of text with 'conspiracy theory'? What is the point of that?

BTW, I didn't even mention the thing that happened today. Because even I can't catch up. Namely the corruption happening around the major Adams of NYC, Trump, and their border czar.
That's literally another impeachable quid pro quo corrupt deal. Even on Fox News they had a guy say it was a corrupt deal and a crime that Adams and Trump made. And it is literally destroying your DoJ.
How are you going to go after criminals if every senior prosecutor with a conscience at the DoJ has already resigned?
 
All the things I mentioned already happened. I can provide receipts. Why are you replying to my wall of text with 'conspiracy theory'? What is the point of that?

BTW, I didn't even mention the thing that happened today. Because even I can't catch up. Namely the corruption happening around the major Adams of NYC, Trump, and their border czar.
That's literally another impeachable quid pro quo corrupt deal.
"Your government was couped by traitors, controlled by Russia and China".....we can start here 😆
 
"Your government was couped by traitors, controlled by Russia and China".....we can start here 😆
WARNING: DO NOT ENGAGE!
It never ends well when this guy starts. He's gotten threads shut down.
Sometimes it's best to just let people believe what they choose, fact or not.
 
Trump was already found guilty of breaking his oath of office and engaging in an insurrection against the the US constitution by a court in Colorado.
Then again by a the Colorado supreme court.
And finally, SCOTUS did not overturn these rulings on the appeal, and it is the rule of the law that Trump engaged in an insurrection and broke his oath to the constitution:

Trump has said he trusts Putin:

And that he trusts Russia over his own intelligence agencies:

Elon Musk has connections with China.

And here is Trump and Elon in the oval office, in front of all the camera's, explaining their plan to bypass both congress and the courts:

And here are the court rulings that Trump & Musk are violating:

Here, Trump has his allies say they are going to ignore court orders:

And here they plan to impeach judges that block Trump:


You can say it is bad, but not a coup. You can say they do it because they believe it is good for the US. But there is not enough evidence for that. At this point, it is not a conspiracy theory to say this is a coup by oath breakers and traitors.
And note that Elon never had to take an oath to uphold the constitution, because he has no official position.
There is literally no way to explain why this would be good for even the staunchest MAGA voters.
 
I understand that the government doesn't give us any direct input on how our taxes are spent, and I guess that was sort of my point, however ineffectively it was made.

Worry not about tomorrow, for tomorrow has its own trouble.

A house divided against itself will not stand.


Not to be preachy, but @Deep Sea Diver is right. Our government is separating us by class, race, values, culture, etc. The solution is not necessarily to rise up together against the government, but to come together as a people, as a nation, in love and compassion for each other, rather than rallying against each other, so that we can discover whoever it is rattling our collective cages.

WARNING:

Trump campaigned on this. He had Elon on stage, claiming they would cut 2 trillion out of the federal budget. And they got a huge applause.
This is people voting for a leopards eating faces party, and then responding with 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face'.

Americans voted for this. Those people are all around you. And they are here too. Attacking me. Of course Trump wants to divide people and play them out against each other. But 1/4th of Americans voted for this.
And there needs to be a reckoning on that. These people need to come out and say they were wrong and apologize.

I am sure there are Trump voters here. Let's see them do it here. Instead of calling me a conspiracy theorist. I am all for America. I am all for addressing the problems rural communities face in a globalized world.
But this has to stop. And in a democracy, the buck stops at the voters.
 
USA is a constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

You are wrong.
Yes, the US is a Republic. It is also a democracy. And it has a nicely written constitution. Which you should read before you try to lecture me on the civics of your own country. It is not very long.
Why would you even say this? Why would a constitutional Republic necessarily be anti-democratic?
Why didn't you follow your own advice when you told other people not to say stupid stuff in response to me?
This is a silly talking point, usually made by people who want less democracy in the US. Or who support the Republican party against the Democratic party. And who want to invoke with 'a republic, not a democracy', that the Republicans ought to have power.
 
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Anyway, this is just a distraction. The issue you guys have right now, and I don't, is that Musk is gutting your federal government. You should care about that. Those are your friends, family, things you rely on. The US government is not going broke. US government debt is so high in part because the financial markets want to loan the US government money. Government dept is not the same thing as debt held by a business or a household. Yes, it can be more efficient. Or money can be spend differently. But Trump and Musk are not addressing that. Either these changes are permanent. Or they will be reversed. Which will be highly costly and inefficient. The US federal government is actually highly efficient, when for example you compare it to Europe with all their own independent little governments. Which is we we here desperately need a federal European Union. Which we likely will never have.
And if you want the federal government to be run better, maybe send more educated or competent and younger people to DC? And not 80 or 90 year old people that are out of touch. Both political parties have plenty of people like that.
There is full congressional oversight on the US federal budget.

I don't want to antagonize people here who don't like what the Democrats did under Clinton, Obama, Biden. Or their local governor. You need to have a hard think yourself on what Trump and Musk are doing.
 
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