Yeah on @JudyB's ~15° tilt and I'd offer these suggestions: There are three trees here...
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This is one of the rare trees where a straight section of trunk is actually interesting and contributes to a whole picture in a tree that is otherwise ~curvaceous.
There are a few reasons I generally don't comment on or critique trees on line any more. Firstly, I find it difficult to make meaningful assessments, and subsequently, appropriate suggestions on trees that I can see in pictures on my phone or lap top... the medium has it's limitations and I'm reluctant to give advice when I'm wondering what the tree might look like from another angle or in different light, etc.. Mostly though, I'm just too busy with work, my family, and my own collection to take the time... sorry. With that being said, if we agree to meet at my house and you happen to bring a tree, you get to pick a cold beer of your choice out of the garage fridge and we can talk bonsai stuff for a while!I have threads on every one of my trees, at least the ones that I feel are in need of threads. Like @VAFisher said, I wasn’t quite sure If posting here would yield any sort of critiques because I certainly get very little critiques or design comments in those threads I have started. Usually it’s from the same small handful of members. What comments I do get are great and welcomed, but rarely if ever, are any comments from seasoned members with the best collections and trees. At this point, I update my threads for myself and for whoever may want to have a look.
Contrary to the other opinions, IMO a slight leftward tilt would be more effective.I was just curious if I would actually get any discussion or critique in this thread, because for the most part I don't in my own threads.
I don’t entirely either, but this a dialogue on trees at this point so. I totally get your point on critiquing imagery. It’s part of the reason I don’t always comment. Another reason is also my not so extensive horticultural knowledge. If I think the tree has healthy issues or needs work to its biology, then those answers are best suited to those who have a better grasp of the info. But I love to comment on the form and special dynamics of trees through images. I wouldn’t say it bothers me I don’t get much critique but I do wish more members who have been at it for a long time would throw a bone from time to time. Truth is, I want nothing more than to improve my technique and trees to the best I can, and have a goal of displaying a tree at the National show at some point. When I’m more financially able, i will undoubtably week our better material and guidance and instruction in person. And in terms of your invite, I’ve got a step sister in Atlanta and may be out that way at some point. So if I ever do, you’ll be on my very short list of people to contact to drink beers and talk trees.There are a few reasons I generally don't comment on or critique trees on line any more. Firstly, I find it difficult to make meaningful assessments, and subsequently, appropriate suggestions on trees that I can see in pictures on my phone or lap top... the medium has it's limitations and I'm reluctant to give advice when I'm wondering what the tree might look like from another angle or in different light, etc.. Mostly though, I'm just too busy with work, my family, and my own collection to take the time... sorry. With that being said, if we agree to meet at my house and you happen to bring a tree, you get to pick a cold beer of your choice out of the garage fridge and we can talk bonsai stuff for a while!
Tree pic for the thread tax... though I honestly disagree with the theme of this thread. This is far from my best tree but I've owned this one longer then any of my other nicer trees and it's never had anyone touch it other then me in that time, currently growing into a new planting angle/restyle and will look better in short order. I once considered bringing this to a Kathy Shaner critique workshop sponsored by my club, but chose to bring another tree. Would her having critiqued this tree and me acting on her suggestions mean I can't comment on someone else's tree? I guess I don't get the premise here.
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Yeah on @JudyB's ~15° tilt and I'd offer these suggestions: There are three trees here...
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This is one of the rare trees where a straight section of trunk is actually interesting and contributes to a whole picture in a tree that is otherwise ~curvaceous.
I don’t know that I’m sold on the angle change as It loses the mother daughter dynamic. More like a mother abandoning her child dynamic. The two trunks compliment each other quite well though and as Judy said more forth in the daughter trunk will go a long way. And if you do make the angle change, maybe just tweaking the apex branches with wire to move to the left over the daughter tree would work.Thanks for the virt. I had never considered the angle change until Judy suggested it - and seeing it in a virt, makes it look like the right way to go. Smaller tree definitely needs to run and thicken. I think the big tree shades it somewhat and the angle change would help with that too.
I also want to reduce the soil mound over time. I had this tree in a penjing thing for a couple years in a really big pot, and the roots got out of control. Next spring I should be able to reduce the roots further and change the planting angle.
Not more forth, more girthI don’t know that I’m sold on the angle change as It loses the mother daughter dynamic. More like a mother abandoning her child dynamic. The two trunks compliment each other quite well though and as Judy said more forth in the daughter trunk will go a long way. And if you do make the angle change, maybe just tweaking the apex branches with wire to move to the left over the daughter tree would work.
I like your elm. I think the crown is getting too thick. You could thin it by half and it would look better and be better for the tree. Keep the daughter tree pointed at the sun or it will get weak.I was just curious if I would actually get any discussion or critique in this thread, because for the most part I don't in my own threads.
There are a few reasons I generally don't comment on or critique trees on line any more. Firstly, I find it difficult to make meaningful assessments, and subsequently, appropriate suggestions on trees that I can see in pictures on my phone or lap top... the medium has it's limitations and I'm reluctant to give advice when I'm wondering what the tree might look like from another angle or in different light, etc.. Mostly though, I'm just too busy with work, my family, and my own collection to take the time... sorry. With that being said, if we agree to meet at my house and you happen to bring a tree, you get to pick a cold beer of your choice out of the garage fridge and we can talk bonsai stuff for a while!
Tree pic for the thread tax... though I honestly disagree with the theme of this thread. This is far from my best tree but I've owned this one longer then any of my other nicer trees and it's never had anyone touch it other then me in that time, currently growing into a new planting angle/restyle and will look better in short order. I once considered bringing this to a Kathy Shaner critique workshop sponsored by my club, but chose to bring another tree. Would her having critiqued this tree and me acting on her suggestions mean I can't comment on someone else's tree? I guess I don't get the premise here.
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Too bad about the few lost branches but that tree is alive! My tree will get a good wiring after its decandled that'll round out the apex. I'll lose some of that branch if it's too crowded this fall.Dave, I think you can lose that top section of the apex.
Tree tax!!! Lol!!! Ok, here it is:
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Imported JWP clump. Yes, a few mean he’s on the main trunk died. They were broken when I got the tree. They had broken in shipment from Japan to Brussel’s. Brussel put a bit of wire on to support them, but alas, to no avail. In the long run, I don’t think it will matter, just adds character.
I don't post too much lately but are some of my best trees a few if which are in need of new pots.
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There are times as a mother when you get to step back and let your daughter shine.I don’t know that I’m sold on the angle change as It loses the mother daughter dynamic. More like a mother abandoning her child dynamic.
Well said. Certainly meant no offense by my comment.There are times as a mother when you get to step back and let your daughter shine.
A proud moment like riding a bike for the first time or graduation.
you may still be able to add some movement back toward the smaller tree.
None taken at all. Just trying to let you know it’s ok if the mother tree leans away a bit- it allows the daughter to draw nearer.Well said. Certainly meant no offense by my comment.
It looks plenty good to em already!It looks much better in person, than in the pic.