Candle with double candle growing at tip, what to do with this?

[Deep Sea Diver]

“I'm not understanding the every other candle part. Could you explain?”

Just me being a bit unclear!

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[JudyB]

I likes your JWP @JudyB
I have a mugo pine with triple heads on strong candles.
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But like Frank, I've never seen them on my JWP. Mugo is single flush...normally.
Kimuras method is outlined in the "book" / collection, Bonsai Today Master Series PINES.
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Be careful if you buy this book, as it is a collection of different styles and methods.
It can get confusing. Can't tell you how many times I've read in this "book" a method,
went outside to my tree, and drew nothing but blanks. After a while it's forks knives and spoons
simple as setting the table. The tree will become balanced using Kimuras method and you will
enjoy pinching back all the candles at the same time, then following up on any stragglers through May.
In this book, you will also read that it is fine to allow the candles to remain full, become shoots, then cut the shoots back.
This would work fine to reenergize a tree that was more on the weak side. I've never done this yet though.
I pinched back all candles 75% this week on my JWP, save for any very weak shoots I might want to keep.
Adair also advocates no fertilizer until the needle sheaths fall. I start a bit earlier than that, and as Brian mentions
fish emulsion, then there's seaweed extract that pairs well with that. Adair and many others also use Julian Adams's
Micromax about the time the candles are moving in Spring. So he does not skip micro nutrients at all. Plus Adairs trees are all refined.
I remember him mentioning a touch of fish emulsion in the past is fine once or twice.
Just wait till late Summer before thinking about full strength fertilizer once your tree is back on track to prevent longer needles.

When candles are midways open/closed is time to spray to lower needle cast pressure,
repeated once opened. Paired with Bonide systemic anti fungal granules.

Could this be due to...

I'm not understanding the every other candle part. Could you explain?
Perhaps you're just stepping (progressing the steps) with the balancing method, with the every other candle terminology?

Thanks, it seems to be a departure than most JWP I’ve seen in its structure. I do have that book, and did candle pinching already, in three waves. I don’t fertilize this early except for the bayer granules that are systemic insecticide with a bit of fertilizer built in. I am looking to do a spray soon for the prevention of needle cast.

 

[JudyB]

OK, so this just happened, the tree has made a secondary set of needles inside the new needles on the tip of the candle. The tree is obviously very healthy, needles are long though. I need to make sure that it has plenty of steam to set new buds to cut back to. I've never seen this happen before, it's like a second flush almost.... this tree is weird. Anyone seen this happen? Thoughts about management overall?

 

[Orion_metalhead]

My Rigida get these as well.

 

[Bonsai Forest]

Here is a photo of the whole, it just got a repot this spring, after one year of partial soil removal, as it was in old bad soil. (Brussels) . The tree exploded with new root growth from last year to this, so much so that I had to pry it out of the pot! So it's just putting on its happy face from being trapped in old soil to new growth I think. As to the needle cast, I wonder if that is damage from my wiring perhaps? The tree had also come to me with really old wire on it, and I took it all off last spring, let the tree breath and just rewired a few weeks ago. I will look at the needles closer and see if cast is possible, I see what you mean. Thanks Frank!
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[Japonicus]

I have an EWP having a full on 2nd flush all over. My other EWP did the same last year after shedding all needles. Just when I thought it was dead.
I see no reason not to decandle 2nd flush if tree is healthy but would like more info 1st.

1st flush still opening new candles underway.