Acer palmatum beni chidori (from cutting)

[clem]

The tree on April 07 ->


April 29 ->


Up to now, the branches grafted are still alive... I cross fingers for the future.

As soon as the tree produces its "summer growth", if those grafted branches are still alive, i will remove the soil to check if they naturally rooted. If not, i will put tourniquet to stimulate root growth (layering)..

 

[giventofly]

I repotted it in spring, trying another thread grafts, but without any tourniquet and a large hole (to avoid stangulation) ..

February 2025 ->
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Why the graft near the roots?

 

[RJG2]

Why the graft near the roots?

They are root grafts, not branch grafts.

 

[clem]

Yesterday, i cut a sacrifice branch. I made a very concave cut, to try to have a very flat/discreet scar (no scar bump).

Before-after



The auto thread grafts are still alive

 

[clem]

yesterday, I put tourniquets with fine ligature wires to encourage root growth ->


On the pic below, you can see the tourniquets and a new root emerging from the trunk at the right place. I hope it will survive and developp to improve the nebari on the back side ->





I also weaned the branches grafted onto the trunk (so I removed the part upstream of the graft).
Before/after ->

 

[BobbyLane]

Good stuff! How tight are you going with the tourni, just a snug fit? Looks like it.

 

[clem]

Good stuff! How tight are you going with the tourni, just a snug fit? Looks like it.

I don't know what's best, nor do I have much experience, so I've been loosely applying the tourniquets (they move easily). When the branches grow and thicken, perhaps this summer or next spring, I'm hoping the tourniquet effect will cause roots to come out without killing the branch.

 

[Piedmont Bonsai]

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Very interesting work and great thread.
Do you often see this sort of varigation on the leaves of your Beni chidori? I wasn’t familiar with this trait of the cultivar.

 

[eplov90]

Very interesting work and great thread.
Do you often see this sort of varigation on the leaves of your Beni chidori? I wasn’t familiar with this trait of the cultivar.

I have the same on my Beni Chidori leaves as they transition through the spring to darker green

 

[Piedmont Bonsai]

I have the same on my Beni Chidori leaves as they transition through the spring to darker green

interesting, i did not know this was a feature of this cultivar. This is what my beni chidori looks like as the color changes in spring. Granted they are young cuttings and my first season with them so it may be a trait in more mature plants.

 

[clem]

Very interesting work and great thread.
Do you often see this sort of varigation on the leaves of your Beni chidori? I wasn’t familiar with this trait of the cultivar.

Thank you !
Yes, i see this discoloration on the periphery of the leaves (I guess that's what you're talking about?) every year on this tree.
It's the red of the leaf that normally turns green all over, but which discolors at the periphery for some reason that I don't know and which gives a variegated appearance to the leaves (I would prefer 100% red, pink or green).
May 2024 ->


I have the same, to a lesser extent, with my "Beni Tsukasa" ->

 

[clem]

ps : I would like to point out that I have 100% confidence in the honesty and rigor of the nurseryman and therefore in the cultivars he sold me (all from cuttings).

Picture and description of Acer palmatum 'Beni chidori'

ps2 : I note, without concluding anything, that the leaves of your Beni Chidori are much more toothed than mine, so I suppose that there is a certain variability in the shape and pigmentation of the Beni Chidori leaves.

 

[Piedmont Bonsai]

ps : I would like to point out that I have 100% confidence in the honesty and rigor of the nurseryman and therefore in the cultivars he sold me (all from cuttings).

Picture and description of Acer palmatum 'Beni chidori'

ps2 : I note, without concluding anything, that the leaves of your Beni Chidori are much more toothed than mine, so I suppose that there is a certain variability in the shape and pigmentation of the Beni Chidori leaves.

I am definitely not doubting your plant! I genuinely just didn’t know that the cultivar had the variegated appearance as the leaves mature. I know this cultivar is easier to obtain in the EU compared to the USA as well.

My cuttings came from Japan so I am certain of the genetics. As I mentioned they are young cuttings so they display juvenile growth until they establish vigor and are more mature. Also i grow my plants outdoors and they have had very high nitrogen fertilizer which may cause the leaves to appear more toothed.

Apologies for hijacking your thread!

 

[leatherback]

root grafts

How do you deal with sections of the trunk where there is no root activity?
(I feel I have a trunk where over 25% there are no roots. Bark seems to be alive, but that is all. Would you expect grafts to take, and start pushing sapflow there?)

 

[clem]

How do you deal with sections of the trunk where there is no root activity?
(I feel I have a trunk where over 25% there are no roots. Bark seems to be alive, but that is all. Would you expect grafts to take, and start pushing sapflow there?)

Dunno if you ask the question to me or RJG2. But i answer

Yes, i hope the grafts will take, and, with tourniquet, produce roots to get a better nebari. But I don't know if the tourniquet will be enough to stimulate root production, especially if the graft has taken, because once it has taken, the downstream part thickens (thanks to the rootstock) but the upstream part does not thicken and it needs thickening and activity for the roots to come out. We will see what happens. That's also why I made fairly large holes: so that the graft is not strangled and so that it has a margin of thickening before merging with the rootstock. I will see if it works.

 

[eplov90]

ps : I would like to point out that I have 100% confidence in the honesty and rigor of the nurseryman and therefore in the cultivars he sold me (all from cuttings).

Picture and description of Acer palmatum 'Beni chidori'

ps2 : I note, without concluding anything, that the leaves of your Beni Chidori are much more toothed than mine, so I suppose that there is a certain variability in the shape and pigmentation of the Beni Chidori leaves.

Mine is a Japanese import and has the same behavior in a very different climate so that also should support your confidence.

 

[clem]

Mine is a Japanese import and has the same behavior in a very different climate so that also should support your confidence. View attachment 603113

Indeed, it is like mine Thank you !