Vin
Imperial Masterpiece
First, I’d like to say a few words in response to Mr. Pall’s comments on the Overview Thread. I would never speak for him or anyone else for that matter but there are a few statements from his blog that should be understood as the challenge moves forward. I have only included relevant statements that apply to our challenge. However, here is the link if you wish to read it in full: http://walterpallbonsaiarticles.blogspot.com/
Rule #1: Participants can seek advice at workshops, from this forum (or other forums), other enthusiasts, a Bonsai Master or wherever and whomever they wish. The only stipulation is the work must be accomplished or assisted by the participant. In other words, you cannot just turn your tree over to someone for them to do the work.
Rule #2: Since this is a Bonsai Nut Challenge, participants must post updates at a minimum of every 90 days on the forum.
If the rules are not followed you will be disqualified. Also, please try to keep the updates on this thread on the short side. A couple photos and a brief explanation of what has been done or changed, etc. is all that’s needed. I encourage you to create your own thread to get advice and opinions on your tree. To start things off here’s my tree with the entry photo, the final submission photo and what it looks like now (just shy of 60 days later). Quite frankly, It's pretty damn ugly! Good luck to all those that take part in this part of the challenge.
Tree critique (which I call Tree Inspiration)
I analyze the tree as I see it and give constructive
criticism. I say what I would do if it were my tree.
It must be understood that to be of value a tree critique
is not an exercise in diplomacy. It is not about being
nice to trees or people. It is about analyzing trees and
giving workable advice. Sometimes people misunderstand
this. It is more about what the artist thinks and not so
much about what the student thinks.
I analyze the tree as I see it and give constructive
criticism. I say what I would do if it were my tree.
It must be understood that to be of value a tree critique
is not an exercise in diplomacy. It is not about being
nice to trees or people. It is about analyzing trees and
giving workable advice. Sometimes people misunderstand
this. It is more about what the artist thinks and not so
much about what the student thinks.
Here Mr. Pall talks about workshops but I see his principles applying to out challenge as well:
It must be stressed that my way of running workshops
is different from what is often done: I make it clear
what options are on each tree but I try to never touch it.
The students work and I watch them - not the other way
around. I only help when really necessary and when asked,
but I will not style somebody’s tree in a workshop. It must
be clear that I am trying not to be a bonsai fundamentalist.
While it is made clear what I would do personally, every
student can do what they want to do in my workshops.
I think this concept can dramatically change the mainstream
demonstrations and regular workshops. I have the strong
feeling that something must be done here. The public obviously
does not accept the old-fashioned way as it used to anymore.
-Walter Pall
Please remember there are only two rules to follow on this leg of the challenge.is different from what is often done: I make it clear
what options are on each tree but I try to never touch it.
The students work and I watch them - not the other way
around. I only help when really necessary and when asked,
but I will not style somebody’s tree in a workshop. It must
be clear that I am trying not to be a bonsai fundamentalist.
While it is made clear what I would do personally, every
student can do what they want to do in my workshops.
I think this concept can dramatically change the mainstream
demonstrations and regular workshops. I have the strong
feeling that something must be done here. The public obviously
does not accept the old-fashioned way as it used to anymore.
-Walter Pall
Rule #1: Participants can seek advice at workshops, from this forum (or other forums), other enthusiasts, a Bonsai Master or wherever and whomever they wish. The only stipulation is the work must be accomplished or assisted by the participant. In other words, you cannot just turn your tree over to someone for them to do the work.
Rule #2: Since this is a Bonsai Nut Challenge, participants must post updates at a minimum of every 90 days on the forum.
If the rules are not followed you will be disqualified. Also, please try to keep the updates on this thread on the short side. A couple photos and a brief explanation of what has been done or changed, etc. is all that’s needed. I encourage you to create your own thread to get advice and opinions on your tree. To start things off here’s my tree with the entry photo, the final submission photo and what it looks like now (just shy of 60 days later). Quite frankly, It's pretty damn ugly! Good luck to all those that take part in this part of the challenge.
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