I need to make something like a ms medium to heal a crack I put in this nursery stock. See the right lower branch, I wanted to prop it away from trunk and used a wedge but when I bent it the collar peeled back a little in doing so and It is wrapped with the inside of an aloe for tonight, but tomorrow I want to make a small batch of medium if anyone has a diy recipe for something that makes like a callus medium or grafting putty.
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Deep Sea Diver
Imperial Masterpiece
There a lot of dyi recipes out there. Plumbers putty on down…. Personally haven’t used most of them, but have used Elmer’s waterproof glue in an emergency. As far as mixing up your own, dunno.
Here’s link to products often used. We’ve tested most of these and have a couple favorites, but it’s kinda subjective.. Everyone else has their favorite… or not.
Good Luck!
cheers
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Here’s link to products often used. We’ve tested most of these and have a couple favorites, but it’s kinda subjective.. Everyone else has their favorite… or not.
Good Luck!
cheers
DSD sends
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
I've used regular cut paste/goop,
Also used clay with a little vasoline mixed in to make it easier to apply.
Others have used plumbers putty. I've never tried it myself.
The orange goop (tube has name in Japanese so dont know it) supposedly has antifungal mixed in to prevent infection.
Not sure what other ingredients the real cut paste might have to help with healing. Clay +vasoline doesn't have anything like that but it works to seal the cut.
Also used clay with a little vasoline mixed in to make it easier to apply.
Others have used plumbers putty. I've never tried it myself.
The orange goop (tube has name in Japanese so dont know it) supposedly has antifungal mixed in to prevent infection.
Not sure what other ingredients the real cut paste might have to help with healing. Clay +vasoline doesn't have anything like that but it works to seal the cut.
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
I have not heard of or come across something like this. My concern would be it staying in place when summer heat becomes an issue.
Wires_Guy_wires
Imperial Masterpiece
Sure, but it doesn't stick. Agar dries fast and is very tasty to snails and worms.
The best option you'd have is to get, or make keiki paste.
Oh yeah, I guess I could wrap it with plastic. Maybe treat it like an air layer and see what happens.
That's probably the stuff, I have auxins but no cytokinins so that might work. Lots to think of here, wonder if anyplace local has this in the shelf. Otherwise I may grind u some root tips and put it in there.
It's not hanging, not sure I would try on that. just I cracked the shoulder open about the width of a credit card before I saw it, and when I back out the rock it stays tight like barely noticable, so we are taking about a fracture but the tree holds its own branch in place.
I know this all sounds painstakng and I could just prune it off and use the other limb - but if I could get a method to plump up the 'shoulder and armpit' area of branches I would do it to others to add age effect.
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
I would be concerned with the plastic allowing too much moisture that could cause a fungal infection in the crack
Wires_Guy_wires
Imperial Masterpiece
Make some of your own, 6-bap is pretty cheap online, as is the lanolin paste. Heating it to around 60°C would make the 6-bap more soluble in waxes and ethanol.
Ground up root tips don't necessarily contain cytokinins in levels higher than you'd find in stuff like coconut water.
Good point - what do you think of sterilize it, put the medium on, and wrap in damp sterilized peat then?
Ok will do on the bap for later projects. I did find thidiazuron in the garage and I have rooting hormone so I will mix and try to be accurate on ratio to save info.
Coconut water is right down the street a dollar tree what a great suggestion.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
A simple split along the wood fibres is not a big issue. I would just leave it alone.
If you mean the lowest branch, you probably will remove that in the final design anyway; Maybe not worth the effort to try all sorts of home recipes?
If you mean the lowest branch, you probably will remove that in the final design anyway; Maybe not worth the effort to try all sorts of home recipes?
Yes but when you welcome a science project distraction this happens. I could go to the clay studio and do a sculpture instead of messing with bonsai, but...?
Wires_Guy_wires
Imperial Masterpiece
Banana produces a bunch of ethylene gas, which is known to evoke a stress response in plants. In a closed environment..
Banana itself contains a lot of potassium which in theory is good for fruits and roots, in practice it doesn't make much of a difference.
Banana also contains a bunch of starch and sugars, which help inhibit root growth and photosynthesis: if a plant can get sugars from the soil it will produce less efficient roots and way less powerful foliage.
It's a trend, as are most tiktok/insta plant health tips: somebody took a scientific article, remembered it 10 years later and called it a fact, then 1000's of people took that fact and promoted it as something they found anew.
I have a love/hate relationship with that kind of crap. On one hand I love people killing their plants by doing stupid trends without spending three minutes to dive into some google search, on the other hand I hate that they come to gardening forums for help instead of calling the original poster out.
One perfect example is the bicarbonate bullshit year. That was 2018 or 2019. People got a lot of mildew and Potassium bicarbonate can (to some extent) treat it. Hydrogen peroxide is better at it.
Potassium bicarbonate is sold as baking soda.
The cheapest baking soda however.. Is sodium bicarbonate.
Sodium is a metal that only halophylic plants can survive. Plants that live near the sea.
So when whole communities of plant lovers started killing their plants with sodium poisoning, a bunch of gardening forums were flooded with orange looking plants. Well, the mildew was gone!
So were the plants.
Heck, we have that in the bonsai community too! A couple dudes were heavily promoting compost tea and one dude nearly killed half of his stock with it because he didn't know what he was doing. Another dude was telling the world he cured apple cedar rust with ProBio Carbon and a year later he no longer dares to specifically claim any beneficial effects for some reason. I wrote an extensive review for the stuff and it doesn't cure anything except root rot in houseplants.
Good that you ask around first. One thing about banana peel water is that it's going to ferment in your soil, causing heaps of carbon dioxide buildup and acidification if there's too little air flow. Eventually that's a plant killer.
hmmm... I did fermenting of pellets like alfalfa and soy and used as compost tea the last couple of years, now I should think about stopping that.
So the ethelyne in banana could be useful for something then.
Thank you very much for all this info.
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Yamadori
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