Anthony_Jamez12
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Just curious, what are the holy grails of tree species for Bonsai? Something hard to get your hands on. Tricky to cultivate, or maybe something that was once close to extension? (If any of this is even a thing)
What Are the Rarest Bonsai Tree Species?
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Those in the US that love Japanese maples are hard pressed to find Beni Chidori, or Seigen or a few others, which are gorgeous.They're around, but nowhere near readily available. Although there probably aren't holy grails, just some that take more time to find... And then you get them and realize, they're cool, but not that much cooler than some of what you already had, just more hyped up.
RoadManDenDron
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There is definitely seigen and benichidori hype in Europe and the UK too
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Celastrus (Tsuru ume modoki) - there have been a few in Kokufu, but i was told that most of them are not around anymore. Attached image from kokufu album
Chimonanthus praecox (Roubai)- there are a handful of known stunners in Japan, but they are difficult to cultivate, especially as they age. The attached picture was taken at Nobuyuki Yanai-san's restaurant
Daphne Genkwa (I have seen it go by a few names, most lately Fujimodoki) - it does not grow in a way that is appropriate for bonsai as we ordinarily think of it, but I have seen 3 on display and they can be incredible. I forgot where this picture came from
Itea (Kobanozuina) - Very unlikely to come across one in Japan. Attached is mine, which originally came from Fuyo-en. (picture my own)
Stachyrus praecox (Kibushi) - easy to find, very difficult to find in a nice shape! (picture from internet see attached)
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There is no answer to this since all woody stemmed trees and shrubs can technically be grown using bonsai cultivation. "Rare" depends on where you are. Some people like Asian species that are kind of common in Japan bonsai but not used in North America. Bald Cypress, live oak and white cedar are rare in Japan...
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That's a good answer to the 'holy grail' part of the question. But there is also this part of the question, which most people I meet do have a fair answer to:
Curious what yours are
I named 5 above from Japan, but I can say there are North American species that grow 50' from my house that I would put in this category too, like White Birch, not because it's difficult to find but because it's difficult to find a nice one and can be tricky to cultivate -- you could say it is a 'holy grail' to me, in the sense that it is elusive and sought-after
rockm
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Fair enough, but when it comes to the West, we have so many species that haven't been tried, it's a Turkey shoot as to what the "Holy Grail" would be. Swamp tupelo, American Snowbell, white oak, black haw are a few that come to mind for me. All those species live around me. All are "rare" in bonsai because not many people dig them up and try to make them bonsai. All can make decent bonsai. Some are rare in the woods, others common. The common ones can be unremarkable and not worth collecting. A middling trunk on a rare species makes it worth the trouble.That's a good answer to the 'holy grail' part of the question. But there is also this part of the question, which most people I meet do have a fair answer to:
Curious what yours are
Michael P
Omono
The rarest bonsai is one that nobody can criticize.
Ohmy222
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if you stick to the traditional bonsai species from Japan then i would say a Japanese Beech is very rare in the US and tricky to develop. They aren't easy to propagate as cuttings strike at low percentages and seeds are only viable every few years. A large, non-grafted japanese white pine would be my holy grail. I like white pines but can't stand the graft union on most.
