Thoughts on this yamadori Juniper?

[JoeWilson]

Tomorrow when it's light out I'll take some ERJ photos (Not going to let up on my campaign to call these things junipers, LOL). Some of my younger trees even have the slight bluish tinge seen in these photos. In my opinion that tree doesn't look anything like a Chinese juniper... but there are lots and lots of Chinese juniper cultivars out there and that tree may look like one of them that I am not familiar with. All I can say for certain is that it doesn't look anything like a young shimpaku Chinese juniper...

You're fighting the good fight here, my guy. Hopefully, ERJ catches on.

 

[rockm]

To just about everyone here with their moral posturing, it’s not that deep. There would be literally zero impact on… anything… taking this tree.

As for the likelihood of survival, it seems that the strong consensus from the community is that this tree wouldn’t survive, so I’ll take that warning and leave the tree be.

I’d like to hear why everyone is convinced it’s an ERC? To my eye and various tree ID apps on my phone, it seems to match to Chinese Juniper. I’ve looked at lots of ERCs and they look distinct to this one. Anyway, not saying I’m sure of anything, just want to know what tips people off to ERC vs Juniper.

Wow what a lot of fuss over a really shitty piece of uncollectible material that has no future.

ANy experienced collector would walk by that and say "there isn't enough Ibruprofen to get me to try to get THAT" Not worth the sweat and certainly not worth the posturing about "saving it" from certain death in its current rooted location. (Which I may say, is a freaking HILARIOUS statement.) The sideways grip it has on that rock suggests to me it's been there quite a while.

 

[jradics]

Hi, this is one of probably 10 junipers in an entire nature preserve in upstate NY that I’ve found, and the only “interesting” one. I’m thinking about collecting it early next Spring. I don’t think the rocks are much of an issue; it seems that the roots most likely lead into a fairly accessible pool of soil.

What I like about it is the trunk and unique root structure (seems to have 3 main roots).

Problem might be: how could these 3 roots which sort of enter the soil horizontally be highlighted in a vertical pot? Any ideas out there?

I’ve collected junipers successfully before, but I’m not an expert by any stretch.

Thanks in advance for advice!

the way those roots are squeezing into the crack says that it would be difficult to remove without killing it. If it's in an out of the way place where only you see it, I have actually just started pruning and shaping them in place. visit on occasion and snip, but enjoy it in place

 

[Joe Dupre']

"nature preserve". Full stop.

 

[oranjeaap]

I dont see why you would want to collect it in the first place. Once you take it out you will have a tree with a strange deformed trunk and weird 90 degree angles that are unpleasing to the eye. It looks fantastic in a rock like that but it will look horrible without the rock.

 

[rockm]

"nature preserve". Full stop.

Yeah. People who dig trees they deem “out of the way” etc from places they don’t have permission (most alarmingly public parks) are still taking a resource that doesn’t belong to them and they have no claim to. They take them because they’re selfish and lazy or too afraid to see out the orrext way to do things

They give all collectors who follow the rules and care about what they’re doing a bad name. This kind of thing has left a bad taste in some property owners mouths about bonsai collection.