The 5 to 10+ Year Progression Thread

[dcw]

Great to hear Dan's voice and wisdom again - it's been seven months for me. As you can tell, he hates - I mean literally HATES - concave cutters! It's always about the deadwood for Dan!

I'd love to stop by and meet you as I pass your way! You've been quite an inspiration and force here on BNut since I joined many years ago, and I admire anyone who really understands the potential of JBLs, and how to bring it out over the years. I'll be in touch as my plans firm up in that regard ... meanwhile I have to get across a vast expanse of ocean and get my bearings in the New World again ...

Does he hate them as much for deciduous trees as well?
Pine deadwood tends to survive much better than deciduous deadwood. On top of that, I can see branches that are removed in a (re)design to be left as a jin. Sacrifice branches on the other hand, I can see being removed entirely, as they strengthen the effect of hiding the behind the scenes creation of a bonsai tree.

 

[grouper52]

If you’re traveling through, it would be my pleasure to meet you and give you the tour.

Wow! Between you and Adair M, I'd say the South is a hotbed of JBP activity! I'd love to stop by and meet you both, and see these gorgeous trees of yours.

As a Southern boy in my youth, with many summers working at a Boy Scout camp in the mountains of Rockbridge County, Virginia, and my "Rat" Year at VMI, and with both Caldwell and Calhoun blood coursing through my veins, it will be good to be among such people and landscapes again - it's been a long time! Looking forward to it!

 

[grouper52]

Does he hate them as much for deciduous trees as well?
Pine deadwood tends to survive much better than deciduous deadwood. On top of that, I can see branches that are removed in a (re)design to be left as a jin. Sacrifice branches on the other hand, I can see being removed entirely, as they strengthen the effect of hiding the behind the scenes creation of a bonsai tree.

Read/study my book about Dan for the answer to that one ...

 

[Adair M]

Will,

Those branches had been removed LONG before I acquired the tree. Long, as in decades! In fact, they’re nearly calloused over.

JBP deadwood, jins anyway, aren’t long lasting. Dan is overly influenced by the Pacific Northwest. But we all are influenced by the trees we see around us every day. For the longest time, I didn’t “get” the deadwood junipers. We don’t have anything like them here. Any deadwood rots away quickly here. Until I went climbing up on the Sierras. And could visit the thousands-year-old trees with their amazing checkered sun and wind bleached deadwood. No humidity, no insects, no molds, fungus, mildew...no rain for six months of the year... all these factors yield completely different effects on the trees.

 

[dcw]

Read/study my book about Dan for the answer to that one ...

Unless there's more than one, it is proudly standing on my bookshelf. Guess it's time for a re-reading

 

[Adair M]

Wow! Between you and Adair M, I'd say the South is a hotbed of JBP activity! I'd love to stop by and meet you both, and see these gorgeous trees of yours.

As a Southern boy in my youth, with many summers working at a Boy Scout camp in the mountains of Rockbridge County, Virginia, and my "Rat" Year at VMI, and with both Caldwell and Calhoun blood coursing through my veins, it will be good to be among such people and landscapes again - it's been a long time! Looking forward to it!

There’s some pretty good ones in California, too!

 

[fredtruck]

This is my Contorted Japanese Flowering Apricot. My wife gave it to me as a Valentine in 2005. I have photographs of it for every year since, except 2015, when it was recovering and refreshing itself.





This ume was in the 2012 Nationals. Other than changing from informal upright to full cascade, the main difference between then and now has been huge ramification.

 

[ABCarve]

Grewia 2012 -2018 - learning how to use small wire.

 

[JudyB]

I do hope Will that you'll make the swing up to visit Ohio on your tour, I'd be so happy to see you again. I will try to find some time to stick a couple progressions in here too.

 

[Lazylightningny]

Itoigawa Shimpaku from Evergreen Gardenworks. Possibly my favorite tree.
2010, as purchased, 2011 styled with Peter Warren, 2012 change of plan, 2013 wired by Owen, 2014 wired by me:
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2015 through 2018; wired twice again. Last shot is current:
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how can you not love this progression? From rags to riches.

 

[Lazylightningny]

Grewia 2012 -2018 - learning how to use small wire.
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that last shot is fantastic

 

[Lazylightningny]

This is a Corkbark JBP, ‘Hachi-Gen’, cutting-grown from Evergreen Gardenworks, started in 1999.
As received in 2008, first Bonsai pot in 2009-10, shortened in 2014 to 9”. Shots each year after to 2018:
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the fourth image to the fifth image is where the real transformation happened!

 

[ABCarve]

San Jose Juniper 2011-2018. This is from a carving class I taught in the early 90s. It is the only one that lived. Probably because I ignored for two years before I worked on it again.

 

[Vin]

San Jose Juniper 2011-2018. This is from a carving class I taught in the early 90s. It is the only one that lived. Probably because I ignored for two years before I worked on it again.

Maybe I should ignore mine for a few years if it will end up looking like yours. How long do you expect it to stay in juvenile?

 

[Adair M]

Maybe I should ignore mine for a few years if it will end up looking like yours. How long do you expect it to stay in juvenile?

It’s a San Jose. It will never go completely scale. I’ve seen one go 95% scale, but that was exceptional. They tend to stay more juvi than scale.

Which is why many great San Jose trunks get grafted with Kishu.

 

[my nellie]

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Thụ Thoại

The spiraling characteristic of the trunk on "Neji-kan" variety is really amazing!
This is a "Neji-kan" isn't it?

 

[my nellie]

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THIS is transformation literally!
Thanks for the images!

 

[ABCarve]

Maybe I should ignore mine for a few years if it will end up looking like yours. How long do you expect it to stay in juvenile?

Probably as long as I own it. In our climate they never become fully adult growth. It’s always a mix, so I cut the adult growth off when it shows up.

 

[LanceMac10]

Itoigawa Shimpaku from Evergreen Gardenworks. Possibly my favorite tree.
2010, as purchased, 2011 styled with Peter Warren, 2012 change of plan, 2013 wired by Owen, 2014 wired by me:
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2015 through 2018; wired twice again. Last shot is current:
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2011-NOW...………..?

 

[grouper52]

I do hope Will that you'll make the swing up to visit Ohio on your tour, I'd be so happy to see you again. I will try to find some time to stick a couple progressions in here too.

I was thinking the same things, Judy: You - and a number of other folks here - are not that far from Mike up north of you, and I'm thinking of doing a circle - down the West Coast, across the South, up the East Coast at least to Maryland, then across the more northern states up your way. Thanks for the invite, and I'll keep you posted.