Recently repotted JBP has browning needles


Look at how this pitch stayed green until the end of the year then died. I think same thing here.

Look, we all kill trees. Gotta learn the issues and timing to do better next time!
 
It’s alive but not much improvement. I wouldn’t put it in thriving category lol. Mostly I have left it alone to recover. Besides moving it into a spot with more protection when it’s hot, raining and windy, I’ve barely touched it. Not even watering regularly, the rain has done that for meView attachment 594673
Thank you for updating the thread. It seems to look worse than before... that means it not going in the right direction. I never have good outcome from a tree that drooped their leave like yours. Fingers crossed.
 
Those buds should be fully extending. I dont have JBP but all my pines are extending now and Im only 2 hours south of you but should be same usda zone.
Obviously I traumatized it with doing repot, needle clipping and needle pulling I did all at once in late March. It needs time and is fighting for its life rn. I don’t expect it to be budding or having much new growth for a while.

The mission right now is to stay alive.
Just need to “survive and advance”
RIP Coach Valvano lol
 
They should, but in bad years in my back yard JBP and JRP make that second flush of theirs, the first flush of the year.

I agree it doesn't look pretty and doesn't look promising but if it is truly biologically dead, it would be entirely brown by now. It might still be on the way out though, maybe not this year but the next.
I want to suggest to the topic starter to start looking for new material. One, to keep the hands busy, and two to apply learned lessons, and three because of the time it takes pines to recover. Starting from seed now would result in them being at the same stage once the damaged one is back on its feet.. If it gets there.
I want to propagate the azalea at my current house before I move but I’ve heard it’s a tough plant and as you can see, I’m still pretty “green”

I’ve been researching acidic soils and root hormone but haven’t pulled the trigger buying anything yet
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Thank you for updating the thread. It seems to look worse than before... that means it not going in the right direction. I never have good outcome from a tree that drooped their leave like yours. Fingers crossed.
Any chance I can change anything to help it? Any recommendations for soil moisture or time in sun that could possibly help?
 
I want to propagate the azalea at my current house before I move but I’ve heard it’s a tough plant and as you can see, I’m still pretty “green”
Go for it, do big numbers and there's a larger chance it might work.
I got to be honest with you, I'm a seasoned veteran in plant care and plant biology, but I struggle with propagating junipers that seem to work just fine for everyone else. And I too have had pines die on me; JBP in my book is not at all the king of bonsai, it's a spoiled nepo baby that's being cuddled too much by the world.. Simply because it's the only pine I can't keep alive no matter what.

As for your current plant and changes, no. That's the thing with conifers: you do the work, you set them down, and then you just water and wait. That is it. Every time you change something, the plant will want to adjust. Causing more stress and more issues along the way. It is a plant. You did a thing, now it needs to either recover or die. Every time you change something, will blur your learning process.
When your car engine starts making a thumping noise and the check engine light comes on, you stop and call assistance. If you instead keep driving, that engine isn't going to magically heal itself. The same is true for plants, unless you can absolutely sure tell that the condition it's in is causing the problem.
Leave it, care for it as you should, and wait it out. This is a multi-year recovery process, if it lives, hence why I advised to just get another or start from seed. By the time this plant has recovered, your seedlings will be of the same size.
 
Go for it, do big numbers and there's a larger chance it might work.
I got to be honest with you, I'm a seasoned veteran in plant care and plant biology, but I struggle with propagating junipers that seem to work just fine for everyone else. And I too have had pines die on me; JBP in my book is not at all the king of bonsai, it's a spoiled nepo baby that's being cuddled too much by the world.. Simply because it's the only pine I can't keep alive no matter what.

As for your current plant and changes, no. That's the thing with conifers: you do the work, you set them down, and then you just water and wait. That is it. Every time you change something, the plant will want to adjust. Causing more stress and more issues along the way. It is a plant. You did a thing, now it needs to either recover or die. Every time you change something, will blur your learning process.
When your car engine starts making a thumping noise and the check engine light comes on, you stop and call assistance. If you instead keep driving, that engine isn't going to magically heal itself. The same is true for plants, unless you can absolutely sure tell that the condition it's in is causing the problem.
Leave it, care for it as you should, and wait it out. This is a multi-year recovery process, if it lives, hence why I advised to just get another or start from seed. By the time this plant has recovered, your seedlings will be of the same size.
I just wish I was a mechanic to fix whatever is causing the “check engine” light lol.

Then again I'm in this situation because I chose to beat my carburetor with a crowbar and rotate my tires for no good reason lol
 
Do with it what you will, but Boon teaches to put the tree back into conditions it was in prior to repotting. If it was in full sun prior to repotting, put it back into full-sun. The additional heat will be beneficial in the regeneration of roots. That's likely caveated with the understanding that the repot happens at the right time of year.
I would not recommend this method to people on a global forum because Hayward California is a very mild climate and most people would kill their trees if they do that.
Average weather for Hayward CA
 
I would not recommend this method to people on a global forum because Hayward California is a very mild climate and most people would kill their trees if they do that.
Average weather for Hayward CA
I pretty much always place junipers and pines back out on the bench after a re-pot. Fwiw, I don't do summer re-pots, tend to be pretty aggressive when working roots, and honestly don't know the last time I lost a recently re-potted pine or juniper.
 
What does Hayward CA climate have to do with anything?
Because that's the region Boon lives in. Region is really important for bonsai care and changes how many people can treat their trees.

In Wisconsin we have to protect from cold after repotting in spring
 
Because that's the region Boon lives in. Region is really important for bonsai care and changes how many people can treat their trees.

In Wisconsin we have to protect from cold after repotting in spring
Boon's in Sacramento now, but his clients are all over the world, ...and the advice is as he was taught in Japan.
 
Boon's in Sacramento now, but his clients are all over the world, ...and the advice is as he was taught in Japan.
Japan also has very mild weather. The ocean buffers them quite a bit. In Milwaukee we have a frost warning tonight. Last night was 80's and windy.

I believe it was Boon who told my mentor that if California bonsai people had to deal with Wisconsin weather most of them would quit.
 
Japan also has very mild weather. The ocean buffers them quite a bit. In Milwaukee we have a frost warning tonight. Last night was 80's and windy.

I believe it was Boon who told my mentor that if California bonsai people had to deal with Wisconsin weather most of them would quit.
I did it in Georgia and I’m doing it now in Michigan. I just don’t let the root ball freeze after the repot. Full sun isn’t a problem.
 
Because that's the region Boon lives in. Region is really important for bonsai care and changes how many people can treat their trees.

In Wisconsin we have to protect from cold after repotting in spring
I’m in southern Connecticut and repotted in late March
 
I did it in Georgia and I’m doing it now in Michigan. I just don’t let the root ball freeze after the repot. Full sun isn’t a problem.
I personally don't have trees out on benches in March. Most of my club member also still keep their trees protected until the weather allows for them to be out. Repotted bonsai don't go out on benches here. I'm just stating my experience and what our club does to keep bonsai alive in our climate. Your climate is different. That is the only point I'm trying to make.
 
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