Please Research Your Decisions.

OVER Three BILLION doses of the vaccine have been administered world wide, Yes thats 3,000,000,000
While I feel sorry for these people, a handful of cases out of 3 BILLION is not a reason to not get the vaccine.
They did testing to the best of their ablility but the fact is that you can not test everyone for every possible reaction.
The rate of long term side effects from the vaccine are less that 0.01 percent

I got the vaccine and only felt a bit under the weather for one day. Been fine ever since.
My mother, my sister, my husband and all of the 10 co-workers in my unit have not one issue with the vaccine.

With the delta variant now running rampant around the world, I know one thing, I am far far safer having had the vaccine than taking my chances with COVID. If I got COVID unvaccinated, there is a very high chance I would die. The chances of a severe reaction to the vaccine are way way lower than that.
 
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Vaccine decisions - risk/benefit. The vaccine is highly effective at stopping COVID. An extremely small percentage of people have a bad reaction to the vaccine. Without the vaccine a very much higher percentage of people contract COVID and have an extremely bad reaction to the virus. And they pass the virus on to others. So, low risk, high benefit. Easy decision.

Ivermectin - risk/benefit. Shown in multiple controlled studies to be of no benefit to treating COVID. Cell culture experiments are not the same. Ivermectin has serious risk to some percentage of people. So, no benefit, some risk. Not a great option.

What is this doing in the general discussion forum? NOT bonsai related.
 
Since February 2020 I've had maybe 3 brief colds or whatever. I.e. stuff has been getting to me.

But putting on a mask while standing (but not sitting) at Panera has kept me safe from the covid-19 virus.

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!! 😆

I can't even....

Why aren't antibody tests promoted as equally as "tEh VaCcIne!!!"

Not enough money in it or something?
 
The greatest risk I see of not being vacinated is that it creates pockets for the virus to continue mutating and creating new variants at an accelerated rate. This is not hyperbole, it is good science.
 
penumbra said:
The greatest risk I see of not being vacinated is that it creates pockets for the virus to continue mutating and creating new variants at an accelerated rate. This is not hyperbole, it is good science.
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Yes and because of all the dumbasses that refuse to get vaccinated and the countries that have not been able to get the vaccine distributed for various reasons (no vaccine available yet, logistics), its only a matter of time before it finds a mutation that the vaccines are much much less effective against or gets around the vaccine altogether and we are right back to 2020 again.

Also yes masks worked but again we get a variant that makes people shed more particles and/or is much more infective, the efficacy of masks will also go down.
 
penumbra said:
The greatest risk I see of not being vacinated is that it creates pockets for the virus to continue mutating and creating new variants at an accelerated rate. This is not hyperbole, it is good science.
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On paper....

John has antibodies to covid 19 via infection.

Jane has antibodies to covid 19 via vaccine.

Both should be ok. Cuz science has taught us about that for like a century.

"2020 science is different though! You dont even know! Every man woman and child on the face of the earth needs the vaccine even if they had the infection. Only when compliance is literally 100% globally can we literally rid the world of an airborne respiratory virus. Any mutations could squarely be the fault of a SINGLE given work-day-person not getting teh vacCiNe and being a mutation incubator!! SHAME! SHAME!"

Listen to yourselves, ffs.
 
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On paper....

John has antibodies to covid 19 via infection.

Jane has antibodies to covid 19 via vaccine.

Both should be ok. Cuz science has taught us about that for like a century.

"2020 science is different though! You dont even know! Every man woman and child on the face of the earth needs the vaccine even if they had the infection. Only when compliance is literally 100% globally can we literally rid the world of an airborne respiratory virus.

Listen to yourselves, ffs.
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Diseases that are vaccine-preventable

Diptheria
Heamophilus
influenza serotype B
hepatitis
measles
mumps
polio
pertussis
Rubella
tetanus
tuberculosis
smallpox
yellow fever


Any mutations could squarely be the fault of a SINGLE given work-day-person not getting teh vacCiNe and being a mutation incubator!!
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You listen to yourself and your false pretenses. This is not how it works. Its not just a single person and you know it.

It is the large percentage of the population keeping themselves open to infection. Regardless of whether they get very sick or not, its the fact they get infected is the problem. The more people get infected with the virus, the more it mutates. This is how viruses work and have worked since the beginning of time. The vaccine stops its ability to mutate by stopping infection.
 
There are those who aren’t medically ALLOWED to get the vaccine, also.

Intent in these cases screws some of the “dumbass” curves... 🤣🤣🤣

I understand enough about virology to WANT a vaccine...

Just:.. CAN’T get it...
 
Paradox said:
Diseases that are vaccine-preventable

Diptheria
Heamophilus
influenza serotype B
hepatitis
measles
mumps
polio
pertussis
Rubella
tetanus
tuberculosis
smallpox
yellow fever
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HPV
chicken pox
anthrax
rabies
pneumococcal pneumonia
 
HorseloverFat said:
There are those who aren’t medically ALLOWED to get the vaccine, also.

Intent in these cases screws some of the “dumbass” curves... 🤣🤣🤣

I understand enough about virology to WANT a vaccine...

Just:.. CAN’T get it...
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This is true and of course I dont include those people in my comment.
BUT that is another reason why everyone else should get it the vaccine so that it stops the virus spreading around
 
HorseloverFat said:
There are those who aren’t medically ALLOWED to get the vaccine, also.

Intent in these cases screws some of the “dumbass” curves... 🤣🤣🤣

I understand enough about virology to WANT a vaccine...

Just:.. CAN’T get it...
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It's funny; when people are expected to abide the rules they previously created, it becomes all weird.

Antibodies should have just as much pull in this whole thing. That's what is created in one of two ways. One being infection. "Virology" 101.

If the previously c19 infected dont get the c19 vaccine, thats suddenly a problem because they can host c20, 21, 22, 23...?

Wait....but so can the c19 vaccinated....?
 
Here's another angle to consider: "Long COVID," the deal where it gets hold of you and just keeps on kicking the crap out of you -- not killing you, just taking a wrecking ball to your daily health & well-being (& career, education, social world).

Guess how much fun that will be. Trying your damnedest to go on having a life, and earn a living, and have people you love understand instead of telling you to change your attitude, or take up running.... Discovering who drops you because you can't keep up. Finding out just what a joy it is to apply for SSD.

Does it sound like I have a clue? I do, and the virus I have is TAME by comparison. Am I getting the jabs? YOU BET YOUR SWEET ASS. There's enough data, now, to show that I'm likely to have the same passing symptoms as, say, my 93-year-old parent -- for about a week, vs. the two days she experienced.

---Now I've got Contest Winners to water. You'd all better BE here to do the cryin' in a few years when I sweep the categories. ❤️❤️❤️
 
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