New member. First bonsai

[HorseloverFat]

Well I can’t find any Japanese maple seeds online . Sean Walker or something like that sent me lots of trident maple seeds but that’s all I have started .

Seeds are of UTMOST “fun”... I enjoy it for the simple reason of near-complete control..

Here are a couple reasons I like growing from seed also... forms like this:

It’s ABOUT time, by you, that you’ll soon start noticing “helicopters” or “samaras” starting to sprout roots on the ground when thaws are noted... Mother nature took care of the “time-consuming” part.. just look for helicopters with little bright-green “tails”...

Also... One pomegranate (from the grocery store) could grow HUNDREDS of trees..

Just remember to ACTIVELY collect seed in late/summer and autumn.

Tridents are sweet! That’s one I don’t have..

This year, as far as maple seeds goin’,I have Acer Monspessulanum, Acer Mayabei and Acer Truncatum.

 

[TimberLakers]

Well I can’t find any Japanese maple seeds online . Sean Walker or something like that sent me lots of trident maple seeds but that’s all I have started .

Good JM bare-root seed(lings):

Bare Root Seedlings – Kaedebonsai-en

 

[LittleDingus]

Well I can’t find any Japanese maple seeds online . Sean Walker or something like that sent me lots of trident maple seeds but that’s all I have started .

Sheffield's Seed Company

For over 30 years we've supplied the BEST seed available in the World for our customers. We guarantee that all the seed we sell has been collected from the named mother plant. In most cases this means it will produce seedlings that are true to name.

sheffields.com

 

[sorce]

Welcome to Crazy!

Sorce

 

[Graft]

You don't have to be too patient if you have a lot of trees to work with. That way you will find that you are doing something all the time. Also your nearest bonsai store might have untrained pre-bonsai at a reasonable price. A lot of the waiting around has already been done for you.

 

[Jnicholes]

Thank you all so much. I really appreciate everyone’s input.

I will keep you all posted on how my progress with the oak goes. I will also get a hold of some other trees when I can, so I can be working a lot.

Jared

 

[Njyamadori]

Sheffield's Seed Company

For over 30 years we've supplied the BEST seed available in the World for our customers. We guarantee that all the seed we sell has been collected from the named mother plant. In most cases this means it will produce seedlings that are true to name.

sheffields.com

Thanks so much but I’m probably late

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Year 1 - spring: germination and let grow
Year 1 - summer/fall: wire trunk movement early.
Year 2 - spring: chop tap root off and start root system work. Let tree grow. Remove wire.
Year 3: let grow. Basic pruning.
Year 4: repot, work on getting flat root base. Possible ebihara method or tile growing.
Year 5-10: repeat years 3-4.
Year 11-20: branch development.
Year 20-50: refinement.

 

[Jnicholes]

Year 1 - spring: germination and let grow
Year 1 - summer/fall: wire trunk movement early.
Year 2 - spring: chop tap root off and start root system work. Let tree grow. Remove wire.
Year 3: let grow. Basic pruning.
Year 4: repot, work on getting flat root base. Possible ebihara method or tile growing.
Year 5-10: repeat years 3-4.
Year 11-20: branch development.
Year 20-50: refinement.

Pardon me, but I have another question. Wouldn’t cutting off the tap root weaken the tree too much? I’m just curious, I thought oak roots were sensitive.

Jared

 

[Njyamadori]

Pardon me, but I have another question. Wouldn’t cutting off the tap root weaken the tree too much? I’m just curious, I thought oak roots were sensitive.

Jared

Tap roots just help trees stay in the ground in the wild

 

[Jnicholes]

Thanks, just curious.

 

[Woocash]

Tap roots just help trees stay in the ground in the wild

This is wrong. On a young tree the tap root is the central hub where most of the other roots emanate from. It reaches down in to the earth, sending off side shoots in order to be able to extract as many nutrients as it can from it‘s immediate vicinity.

As a tree matures it form buttressing roots which spread laterally and these are the real anchors and feeders for a mature tree. Often the tap root will become superfluous as the tree matures and favours surface roots so tap roots often die and in its place the network of lateral roots will only exist a couple of feet below the surface.

So while the young tree makes use of the tap root for stability, it’s primary function is still to feed the tree. It is why some species such oaks, horse chestnut, walnut etc are sometimes difficult to collect with enough lateral or surface roots because the tap root is still where it’s all happening.

Seedlings, however, just want to grow and need relatively few roots to keep going. If you cut the main tap off they will often respond by sending out several, more lateral roots in its place and that’s the goal at the end of the day.

 

[Njyamadori]

This is wrong. On a young tree the tap root is the central hub where most of the other roots emanate from. It reaches down in to the earth, sending off side shoots in order to be able to extract as many nutrients as it can from it‘s immediate vicinity.

As a tree matures it form buttressing roots which spread laterally and these are the real anchors and feeders for a mature tree. Often the tap root will become superfluous as the tree matures and favours surface roots so tap roots often die and in its place the network of lateral roots will only exist a couple of feet below the surface.

So while the young tree makes use of the tap root for stability, it’s primary function is still to feed the tree. It is why some species such oaks, horse chestnut, walnut etc are sometimes difficult to collect with enough lateral or surface roots because the tap root is still where it’s all happening.

Seedlings, however, just want to grow and need relatively few roots to keep going. If you cut the main tap off they will often respond by sending out several, more lateral roots in its place and that’s the goal at the end of the day.

Oh well I’m stupid

 

[Carol 83]

Oh well I’m stupid

No you are not. You're young, enthusiastic and eager to try and offer advice. None of those are bad things. Maybe just be sure of the advice that you offer.

 

[Njyamadori]

No you are not. You're young, enthusiastic and eager to try and offer advice. None of those are bad things. Maybe just be sure of the advice that you offer.

Yeah I usually say don’t trust me before I write anything but rn we can’t see how big this tree is that this guy is growing . In bjorns video making a maple clump he takes off all of the tap roots so I thought this and other videos from others . And sorry for giving wrong information but this is the internet after all

 

[Jnicholes]

Oh well I’m stupid

I may be new, but don’t be so hard on yourself. It’s okay. How else do we learn?

By the way, I forgot to add when I first posted, I used to be quite a vegetable gardener. I love working with plants. Another reason I want to try bonsai.

 

[Jnicholes]

Yeah I usually say don’t trust me before I write anything but rn we can’t see how big this tree is that this guy is growing . In bjorns video making a maple clump he takes off all of the tap roots so I thought this and other videos from others . And sorry for giving wrong information but this is the internet after all

Here’s a picture of my tree so far.

 

[Jnicholes]

After moving some soil, you see how it’s developed. It’s actually developed so much, I can’t even pull the acorn out of the pot!

 

[Woocash]

Oh well I’m stupid

No, not stupid and that’s why I wanted to correct the info. You’re not making stuff up, you’re just repeating bits of what you‘ve leant and often that is the best way to process information in your mind. It’s how you respond to new information that determines if you’re stupid.

 

[Woocash]

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After moving some soil, you see how it’s developed. It’s actually developed so much, I can’t even pull the acorn out of the pot!

Good stuff, do you know the species?