Kepplers contribution for 2016 on sniping and bickering.

[Adair M]

Well, actually, Boon does say that he learned most of what he teaches (if not all) from Kamiya. He doesn't claim to have invented this stuff. Even "Boon Mix". He will tell you that his mix is a copy of what he used as an apprentice in Japan. Or, as close as possible with materials locally available. On the video I posted, he even states that akadama is not necessary, if you don't have access to it. And what to do to make up for it.

I believe the only technique that is unique to Boon is the "Half bare root" repot for conifers. But, he doesn't call it "Boon half bare root".

Guys, I don't claim to be any genius at doing bonsai. I don't lay claim to inventing any special equipment or techniques. I do have some pretty decent trees, but I don't have hundreds. I tried that in the past, and I just can't keep up that many. I have also found that I have a limited capacity to know all the particulars of all the various species of trees. So, rather than do all species poorly, I have concentrated my efforts on pines. JBP, primarily. I have concentrated my efforts there, and I use that as my base of expertise. I do have some other species, but I'm not as good with them. So, I rarely give advice about them.

I cite Boon as the source of a lot of what I share here, not because I think Boon is the only source of this information, (there are other teachers), but because who would believe some hick named Adair M from the hills of North Georgia? I don't have the ego that tries to lay claim to these techniques. That I invented any of this. No, I learned it from someone else. I cite Boon just like you cite sources when writing a research paper.

I see that turns many of you off. I'll be aware of it, and try to limit that in the future.

Meanwhile,

Happy New Year, everyone!

 

[Lynn E]

Well, actually, Boon does say that he learned most of what he teaches (if not all) from Kamiya. He doesn't claim to have invented this stuff. Even "Boon Mix". He will tell you that his mix is a copy of what he used as an apprentice in Japan. Or, as close as possible with materials locally available. On the video I posted, he even states that akadama is not necessary, if you don't have access to it. And what to do to make up for it.

I believe the only technique that is unique to Boon is the "Half bare root" repot for conifers. But, he doesn't call it "Boon half bare root".

Guys, I don't claim to be any genius at doing bonsai. I don't lay claim to inventing any special equipment or techniques. I do have some pretty decent trees, but I don't have hundreds. I tried that in the past, and I just can't keep up that many. I have also found that I have a limited capacity to know all the particulars of all the various species of trees. So, rather than do all species poorly, I have concentrated my efforts on pines. JBP, primarily. I have concentrated my efforts there, and I use that as my base of expertise. I do have some other species, but I'm not as good with them. So, I rarely give advice about them.

I cite Boon as the source of a lot of what I share here, not because I think Boon is the only source of this information, (there are other teachers), but because who would believe some hick named Adair M from the hills of North Georgia? I don't have the ego that tries to lay claim to these techniques. That I invented any of this. No, I learned it from someone else. I cite Boon just like you cite sources when writing a research paper.

I see that turns many of you off. I'll be aware of it, and try to limit that in the future.

Meanwhile,

Happy New Year, everyone!

Always a gentleman. Happy New Year.
Lynn

 

[Vance Wood]

After speaking with you privately my respect for you has grown exponentially. Oddly though, my problem is not with Boone but with his students. I don't know what it is but there is something in those people who study with Boon that makes them think they have become gods in the realm of bonsai. I know that Adair says that Boon does not extoll the value of Akadams to the level some of his students seem to. There was one in particular who went so far as to make the claims that if you didn't use Akadama you were not doing bonsai properly. This same individual was directly responsible through his self-righteousness to virtually destroy the life of someone who made some great contributions to this forum and the world of bonsai in general. This individual is no longer doing bonsai that I know of, but at the time because he was a student of Boon, he thought what he had to say needed to be listened to. Will Heath proved him wrong every time he tried it, therefore Will Heath had to go.

 

[Vance Wood]

Adair: You keep doing what you have been doing. I can tell you through my experience your own identity is just as important as those things you learn from Boon. I care for you as a friend and fellow bonsaiist and don't give a giant Bowel Movement where you got the information. I'm pretty sure you can stand on your own two feet and make a contribution identifiable only with you.

 

[GrimLore]

There seems to be only the professionals way or nothing.

Cheers!

At last years invasive, Goon showed us how to make a correct turnbuckle using thin wire instead of a twin thick wire. I used to do it that way but the invasive opened my eyes to how it should be done.

Great example - being shown a different method does not predefine it as correct and therefore the "law".

@Adair M Tore me a new one on an Extra Red Eastern wiring job and told me that it was totally improper both wire and the unnatural bends downwards to the branches.

I found it a bit funny so I played along a bit and let him have his moments. I never told him my intent with the extra plant was to make a Charlie Brown style Christmas tree which when "bronzed when dormant" was my plan. At that point I already had the tiniest set of battery powered LED lights I had ever seen and a single red 3/4" red ornament as well as a flannel base cover.... It turned out Epic by the way and has given many people a grin here at my place - will I share it here? No - purists would just ruin it.

If I remember correctly I just stated I was prepping the plant for a future planting and let him go on and on along with another purist here. I know how to do that wiring, and I was having fun not caring about perfection but a specific result.

I am normally not the type to step back from a good discussion but that time I saw it pointless. He knows I know better... On a brighter note I understand and respect his work, or should I say Boon's?

Grimmy

 

[Dav4]

Adair always has been and always will be one of the good guys, here and elsewhere.

 

[ColinFraser]

You sure I mentioned the battery car?

Hey, you leave Tesla out of this!

 

[Dav4]

Cheers!



Great example - being shown a different method does not predefine it as correct and therefore the "law".

@Adair M Tore me a new one on an Extra Red Eastern wiring job and told me that it was totally improper both wire and the unnatural bends downwards to the branches.

I found it a bit funny so I played along a bit and let him have his moments. I never told him my intent with the extra plant was to make a Charlie Brown style Christmas tree which when "bronzed when dormant" was my plan. At that point I already had the tiniest set of battery powered LED lights I had ever seen and a single red 3/4" red ornament as well as a flannel base cover.... It turned out Epic by the way and has given many people a grin here at my place - will I share it here? No - purists would just ruin it.

If I remember correctly I just stated I was prepping the plant for a future planting and let him go on and on along with another purist here. I know how to do that wiring, and I was having fun not caring about perfection but a specific result.

I am normally not the type to step back from a good discussion but that time I saw it pointless. He knows I know better... On a brighter note I understand and respect his work, or should I say Boon's?
Grimmy

The problem is you were using pictures of said ERC as an example of good wiring technique...and not mentioning your goals with styling was certainly an oversight on your part in my opinion. Taking pot shots at Adair because of what you posted in that thread? Really???

 

[GrimLore]

The problem is you were using pictures of said ERC as an example of good wiring technique...

Nope - I was explaining the two terms to the OP that I believe Mr. Martin used - there is no way the OP knew what Adair meant. That plant was close to the door and what I explained was in fact ok. It was informational and never meant to be a excellent wiring example. There are many here who never read what others post thoroughly but are prompt to answer while "sniping". In that case and post a few of you did it - not just him

Grimmy

 

[carp]

I just got one question, who's got the biggest dick?

 

[Dav4]

Nope - I was explaining the two terms to the OP that I believe Mr. Martin used - there is no way the OP knew what Adair meant. That plant was close to the door and what I explained was in fact ok. It was informational and never meant to be a excellent wiring example. There are many here who never read what others post thoroughly but are prompt to answer while "sniping". In that case and post a few of you did it - not just him

Grimmy

Well, I remember the thread in question. Posting an image of a young ERC supposedly being styled in the form of a "Charlie Brown Christmas tree"...without mentioning that fact at the time...with the less then stellar wiring job in place....and putting it out there as an example of good wiring....sure as hell didn't clarify anything for the OP.

 

[Gene Deci]

I don't object to someone touting one method or another whether they credit their teacher or not. What bothers me is when people say "never" or "always" or "you must" or "you can't". Absolutes are seldom absolutely true. Tell me why you think one way is better than another. For me those kind of posts are a lot more interesting and useful.

 

[Anthony]

Obviously Seth, otherwise he would not be asking

Apologies Seth, couldn't resist, with a 35 % negroid/ caucasian mix down here, and that's how they introduce the topic, when in mixed race company.

Secondly -
I ask for advice from those in the know. I look at their trees and then read their words.

*****Actions speak louder than words.*****

Good Day
Anthony [ still celebrating !!!]

 

[Adair M]

Let's just let this one die on the vine, please.

 

[GrimLore]

Well, I remember the thread in question. Posting an image of a young ERC supposedly being styled in the form of a "Charlie Brown Christmas tree"...without mentioning that fact at the time...with the less then stellar wiring job in place....and putting it out there as an example of good wiring....sure as hell didn't clarify anything for the OP.

http://bonsainut.com/index.php?threads/my-grand-wiring-job.21076/ post #9

"Needed to simply pull these branches down for now. Orange shows the Anchor and Green shows the 45 degree wrap. This is not as neat or in copper or aluminum but a picture will give you a better idea. This one is a quick wire down before the branches became to brittle to work with at all and they where all upright."

Do you read or? Says a quick temporary bend down, Picture shows an arrow pointing to an Anchor and an Arrow pointing to a wrap. So the OP had a friggin clue what everyone was talking about and trying to keep it "civil".

Perhaps you need to make a resolution to "read" before "sniping" as well as several others here. There was nothing unclear in what I typed or had shown. You were all just being oddly aggressive...

Grimmy

 

[Dav4]

I just got one question, who's got the biggest dick?

Sometimes size matters, but many times it doesn't. It's kind of like bonsai wire...it's HOW you use it that really matters.

 

[GroveKeeper]

Sometimes size matters, but many times it doesn't. It's kind of like bonsai wire...it's HOW you use it that really matters.

I've found that texture is more important than size. I guess that could apply to bonsai too.

 

[Dav4]

http://bonsainut.com/index.php?threads/my-grand-wiring-job.21076/ post #9

"Needed to simply pull these branches down for now. Orange shows the Anchor and Green shows the 45 degree wrap. This is not as neat or in copper or aluminum but a picture will give you a better idea. This one is a quick wire down before the branches became to brittle to work with at all and they where all upright."

Do you read or? Says a quick temporary bend down, Picture shows an arrow pointing to an Anchor and an Arrow pointing to a wrap. So the OP had a friggin clue what everyone was talking about and trying to keep it "civil".

Perhaps you need to make a resolution to "read" before "sniping" as well as several others here. There was nothing unclear in what I typed or had shown. You were all just being oddly aggressive...

Grimmy

You're right...it was an excellent post. Keep up the good work...not that we will EVER see anything other then that pitiful ERC posted here. You've always talked the talk here..kinda...but you've NEVER posted any pictures of anything you've wired other then that ERC that I can recall....hmmmm. Anyway, keep up the good work.

 

[M. Frary]

I just got one question, who's got the biggest dick?

Who do you think?
Remember,it isn't the size of the dick in the fight,it's the size of the fight in the dick.

 

[GrimLore]

NEVER posted any pictures

Many don't, won't, and never will. If people cannot understand simple English pictures are often useless. The 2D often does not really show things correctly anyways. My house is generally unlocked, it is no secret where I live, and we have a nice guest room.

Grimmy