Help with identification

[j evans]

I pulled this tree from around my birdbath last fall and threw it in a colander so it most likely is a bird transplant. Looks kind of like the raintrees but I don't think that they are around here. Any idea?

 

[petegreg]

European mountain ash (Sorbus aucuparia) is my guess.

 

[Quince]

European mountain ash (Sorbus aucuparia) is my guess.

I second this.

 

[Fishtank307]

I second this.

Third! Birds eat the berries and the undigested seeds sprout in spring

 

[Fishtank307]

Beautifull color btw! They aren't native to the US, right?

 

[GailC]

Cute little tree. I don't have any mountain ash bonsai but I do have a few trees in the yard that are quite old. The fall foliage is spectacular, they rival any maple out there with vivid colors and the small berries will hang on a tree all winter if the birds don't get to them. The flowers are uninspiring and they stink to boot but that is the only downfall.

There are European and American varieties, I have no idea how to tell which is which.

 

[ghues]

Looks like a native Mtn Ash. Better as a landscape tree rather than a bonsai.

 

[0soyoung]

Looks like a native Mtn Ash. Better as a landscape tree rather than a bonsai.

I echo this.

 

[Stan Kengai]

Poison sumac.

 

[0soyoung]

Poison sumac.

YIKES!!
lol!

btw, @j evans, the leaflets you were touching have erose edges. Poison sumac's don't

 

[milehigh_7]

Poison sumac.

I thought sumac at first but this has Serrate margins and I believe poison sumac has serrate margins.

 

[j evans]

Ok you guys, make up your mind, do I leave the tournequet on or can I take it off? It's getting just a bit tight!

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Probably an Ash, genus Sorbus. Like sumac, sometimes grown more or less as a large kusamono for beautiful autumn color. Kimura has a unbranched 5 foot tall sumac that has a graceful trunk, and nice autumn color. Bonsai only if one considers kusamono bonsai.

 

[milehigh_7]

I meant to say I think poison sumac has entire margin

 

[petegreg]

Probably for larger trees due to the size of their compound leaves. But they can be reduced.
Kusamono if it is young and larger bonsai from bigger collected or ground grown trees.

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[0soyoung]

Probably for larger trees due to the size of their compound leaves. But they can be reduced.
Kusamono if it is young and larger bonsai from bigger collected or ground grown trees.

Even if they won't reduce, one can always cut a leaf to 2 leaflets or 4 or 6 or .... Petiole length may then be a problem, but so what? One point of deciduous bonsai is the beauty of the 'skeleton' during the winter --> internode length. This was the coup de gras of my past toying with mountain ash.