Help please - List 5 trees native to your area [ say 50 miles ] usable for Bonsai

Recently got an email for submissions for our next year's convention, which will be held jointly with the American Bonsai Society for their 50th anniversary. So, BSF/ABS...

Anyhow, there is an award given each year at ours and will be given as well this time for Florida Native Material. The email included the list, so thought I would copy it here. Some of these would some work making a nice bonsai out of, but hey... I guess anything is possible, just have to figure out how. This is what they consider native...

FLORIDA NATIVE SPECIES FOR BONSAI

Common Name Species

Acacia A. choriophylla

Simpson’s Stopper Eugenia Foetida

American Hornbean Carpinus caroliniana

Buttonwood Conocarpus erectus

Bald/Pond Cypress Taxodium distichum, ascendens

Dwarf Black Olive Bucida Spinosa

Florida Elm Ulmus americana

Water Elm Planera aquatica

Winged Elm Ulmus alata

So. Hackberry/Sugarberry Celtis laevigata

So. Red Cedar Juniperus silicicola

Shortleaf or Giant Bearded Fig or Wild Banyan Tree Ficus citrifolia

Strangler Fig Ficus aurea

Muscadine Grape Tetrastigma rotundifolia

Gumbo Limbo Bursera simaruba

Yaupon & Weeping Y. Holly Ilex vomitoria / “Pendula”

Palatka Holly I. x attenuate

Lantana Lantena camara

Lignum Vitae Guaiacum officinale

Swamp/Red Maple Acer rubrum

Live Oak Quercus virginiana

Laurel Oak Q. laurifolia

Parsley Hawthorne Crataegus marshalii
 
If we're talking native then for central Virginia I can think of:

American Elm
Winged Elm
American Sweetgum
Virginia Pine
Hornbeam
Hackberry
Eastern Red Cedar - questionable
Red Maple - questionable although I like them a lot

Things like crape myrtle and azalea are not native. Unless you mean deciduous azalea.

American beech
Birch
Pitch pine
Eastern white pine
Bradford pear

And red maple are great as bonsai, at lease the 5 I have are.
 
I just looked in my photo files, and to my embarrassment, of my many trees, I only took pictures of the non-native introduced or nursery species. Shows just how deep the built in bias against local species is in the bonsai hobby. Even myself, I think of myself as a champion of using local species, or at least encouraging others to do so, and I took lots of pictures of my JWP, my JBP, but not a single one of my Thuja, or hornbeams, or any others. Well I do have pictures of the elm I collected at the family farm in Michigan, and a jack pine grafted cultivar - so it is not exactly a "wild collectible form", but jack pine is native to the area of Michigan the farm is in, though it is from more than 50 miles away from my home in Illinois.

So my list:
Elm - the local native elms - in my area that can be Ulmus americana, Ulmus rubra (various names - Cedar Elm or Red Elm or Rock Elm), Ulmus pumila (Siberian elm foreign invasive), and perhaps Ulmus minor (field elm - foreign invasive) - currently have one I collected from the family farm in Michigan. Not sure which of the 4 species it is, leaning toward Siberian elm, but it could be any of them, at least 3 of 4 had matures specimens within seed dispersal range of where I collected it. Virtually all elms have good potential to become good quality bonsai.

Thuja occidentalis - White cedar - native throughout the entire area. Makes a decent bonsai with time, I have one young one that is a volunteer seedling truly counts as locally native. Also picked up a nursery cultivar that is of dwarf habit. Just picked it up, but has nice trunk for a relatively compact tree. Will start a thread for it eventually. Training techniques, I'm planning to treat it pretty much like its relative, the Hinoki cypress. They don't back bud on old wood. so you plan your branches and pruning with that in mind. Definitely a species that can become a quality bonsai.

Jack Pine - like Vance Wood, I think Jack Pine has real potential to become good bonsai, and should prove to be an excellent choice for those living in colder climates. Books suggest this pine won't tolerate the heat of zone 7 or warmer, but it is listed as hardy to zone 3, so it is excellent for my zone 5b or 6a area, it won't need extra protection in winter.

American persimmon - Diospyros virginiana - native to the part of Michigan where the family farm is, native to Illinois with its range starting about 200 miles south of my home there. I think it has great potential as bonsai. Develops a thick, hard, checkered black bark, with an alligator pattern, and at an early age, Bark starts at about 7 years and is pretty well developed by 25, at least on trees in the field. The asian species of Diospyros all have a smooth bark that matures to a slightly rough pebbled texture. For its bark alone, it is worth trying out. Its fruit is bigger than D. rhombifolia, about 1 to 2 inches in diameter. It is much smaller than D. kaki, the culinary persimmon. Personally I think the fruit of the American persimmon is superior in flavor, if its fully ripe. Unripe fruit is incredibly astringent and will put you off food for a while. Soft ripe is best, when the calyx twists easily free of the fruit. Trees are dioecious, being either male or female, only a rare specimen will have both sexes of flowers. Over the last 5 years I have started several batches of seedlings, none are old enough yet to look like much. But I have high hopes.

Hop flowered hornbeam - Ostrya virginiana - native to my Illinois and Michigan locations. - I have a batch of seedlings in their second & third growing seasons. They are still young, but eventually they should turn out nice. Ostrya don't need as much moisture as Carpinus, and tolerate more sun and exposure to wind and low humidity. Carpinus can be touchy about getting dry, Ostrya seem to bounce back better. Though they are not like pomegranate or olives, they definitely need more water than those trees. If they dry past the first few hours of wilt, they will dry.

the elm collected in Michigan March 2016, photo May 2016

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no pictures of my Thujas

Jack Pine 'Chippewa' grafted onto Scot's pine understock - nursery stock purchased Aug 2016, Blue Horizon Nursery, Michigan.
Since I just got this tree, the only thing I did was transplant it to a 15 x 15 x 5 Anderson tray, and wire down the lower branches to let light in to encourage back budding. I will leave it alone at least 12 to 24 months, let it recover strength. I'm going to follow Vance Wood's mugo schedule for repotting and pruning, So I repotted in August, and now will treat it like a mugo, only work on it after Farther's Day, while it is in active growth. Wire will normally be done in winter. We'll see if it works. Others in the past have said that jack pines don't transplant well. So far this October photo, shows good color after the August repot. Maybe the secret to jack pines is the same as mugo - summer repotting. Time will tell, next repot won't be for 5 or more years. Soil is pumice, red lava, about 80%, the rest is charcoal, pine bark and akadama in equal parts. The mix is pretty open, should hold its structure for 4 or 5 years.


Jack pine Oct 3-20161003_370.jpg

American Persimmon - Diospyros virginian
didn't take many photos, one is a batch of seedlings. the second is a tree displayed at the Milwaukee Bonsai Society Show 2016, The tree is not mine, belongs to Rita L. and is about 12 inches tall.

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Diospyros virginiana Rita Luedke Sept2016.jpg

That is it for ones I have pictures of.
 
American elm - don't have any but plan to collect one or two this coming spring.
Tamarack - one of my favorite species. haven't seen any locally but I'm probably not looking in the right places. More common farther north.
Scots pine - technically not a native but they grow wild here. I collected several young trees and wired them into crazy shapes. Maybe in 10-15 years they will be interesting bonsai.
Honeysuckle - the species I have I'm pretty sure is invasive (Amur honeysuckle). Fast grower and backbuds well.
 
- Pines: aleppo pine (Pinus halepensis) and Stone pine (Pinus pinea)
- Olives (Olea europaea): lots of cultivated ones, but in some places you can find some wild specimens.
- Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis): Very common in gardens and houses, but there's a lot in the mountains growing wild.
- Junipers: (Juniperus sabina and Juniperus oxycedrus, scale and needle )

Sorry for reply myself, but here are the pictures:

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Pinus halepensis from seed. @Eric Schrader inspiration about neagari pines (if you already close your eyes, maybe you'll finde some resemblances)

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Wild olive, yamadori from two years ago.

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Juniperus oxycedrus, our native needle juniper, as painful as tosho. Two years from seed, I'm patient...

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Rosmarinus officinalis: from a little cutting of a garden bush. Just worked, so not the best time to take a picture.
 
American beech
Birch
Pitch pine
Eastern white pine
Bradford pear

And red maple are great as bonsai, at lease the 5 I have are.

I happen to think so too. Just mean that most people do call them questionable.
 
Living in Northern California offers some great native species. These are my top five but there's more. The following are all trees I've collected myself.

1. Sierra Juniper , J. occidentalis australis
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2.
Coast Redwood, Sequoia sempervirens
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3.
Lodgepole pine, P. contorta
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4. Coast Live Oak, Q. agrifolia
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5.
Interior Live Oak, Q. wislizenii
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@VAFisher ,

remember Kings, Queens, Princes ..............................................
Some make exceptional Bonsai, some have to have exceptional designs to compensate for a shortcoming,
some are favorites for personal memories and so on.
Good Day
Anthony
 
Many species from here:
- coniferous:
mugo and scots pine
Pinus nigra
Taxus baccata
Larix decidua
Juniperus communis and horizontalis
Picea abies

- broadleaf:
Acer campestre
Betula pendula
Carpinus betulus
Fagus sylvatica
Crataegus monogyna
Euonymus europaeus
Prunus mahaleb and spinosa
Pyracantha coccinea
Quercus robur and petraea
Sorbus aucuparia
Tilia cordata
 
Nyssa sylvatica, or black gum: haven't ever had one to try, but I plan to for its fall color
Acer rubrum: eventually one should be able to be selected that reduces adequately, right (?)
Ulmus americana
Fagus grandifolia
Acer saccharum var. floridanum: I have one that I am growing out, leaves are smaller than the straight species
 
I did some research and Ill add

Winterberry - Ilex verticillata as a possible (I think people have used them and its an Ilex so should work)
American Hornbeam (I didnt know they were native here)
American Elm (also did not know they were native)
 
Yes, I am bragging about the Pacific Northwest:

  • Alaska cedar
  • Black hawthorn
  • California incense cedar
  • Common juniper
  • Douglas-fir
  • Englemann spruce
  • Giant sequoia
  • Hairy manzanita
  • Lodgepole pine
  • Oregon white oak
  • Ponderosa pine
  • Port Orford cedar
  • Shore pine
  • Sitka spruce
  • Subalpine fir
  • Vine maple
  • Western juniper
  • Western redcedar
  • Western white pine
If I had to pick five…
  • Douglas-fir
  • Englemann spruce
  • Oregon white oak
  • Shore pine
  • Western redcedar
 
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So just to clarify, Western Red Cedar is a Thuja, like white cedar? Not a juniper, like Eastern Red Cedar? And none of them are related to Cedrus (true cedar)? Common names often have me soooo confused.....
 
Indiana:

Eastern White Pine Pinus strobus
Jack Pine Pinus banksiana
Red Pine Pinus resinosa
Scotch Pine Pinus sylvestris
Bald Cyprus Taxodium Distichum
White Cedar Thuja occidentalis
Paper Birch Betula papyrifera
Yellow Birch Betula alleghaniensis
River Birch Betula nigra
White Oak Quercus Alba
Bur Oak Quercus Macrocarpa
Chesnut Oak Quercus Prinus
Swamp White Oak Quercus Bicolor
Chinkapin Oak Quercus Muehlenbergii
Northern Red Oak Quercus Rubra
Black Oak Quercus Velutina
Pin Oak Quercus Palustris
Northern Pin Oak Quercus Ellipsoidalis
Shingle Oak Quercus Imbricaria
American Hophornbeam Ostrya virginiana

American Hornbeam Carpinus caroliniana
American Beech Fagus Grandifolia
American Elm Ulmus Americana
Slippery Elm Ulmus Rubra
Winged Elm Ulmus alata
American Hackberry Celtis Occidentalis
Sweet Crabapple Malus Coronaria
Prairie Crabapple Malus Ioensis
Black Cherry Prunus Serotina
Cockspur Hawthorn Crataegus Galli
Downy Hawthorn Crataegus Mollis
Eastern Redbud Cercis Canadensis
Sugar Maple Acer Saccharum
Black Maple Acer Nigrum
Red Maple Acer Fubrum
Silver Maple Acer Sacharinum
Flowering Dogwood Cornus Florida
Common Persimmon Diospyros Virginiana

This list is made from my limited knowledge and research. If I missed some or got some wrong anyone is free to correct me.
 
So just to clarify, Western Red Cedar is a Thuja, like white cedar? Not a juniper, like Eastern Red Cedar? And none of them are related to Cedrus (true cedar)? Common names often have me soooo confused.....

Yes, that sounds correct to me.
 
My list might be more like what you see.. I have several species of strangler fig, a local pine, "savanah oak", corteza, jaboticaba, tamarindo, pitanga, several types of guava, jocote, and many more. Idk which fruits are native, or the pine. We have what I think is Australian pine ( not really a pine), and tons of types of bougainvillea. Most trees in the jungle have huge leaves. I think the figs, bougies and any type of jade is what I mostly will stick to. But I have tons of shrubs around here that Im trying...I do like the idea of native or at least naturalized. Mango, avacado and lots of other ,naturalized trees exist here too. Lots of fruits. You may need to visit to get the idea. I want " guanacaste" trees and ceibo which get huge with small leaves. The guanacaste tree might not be native. The only name I ever knew growing up was very racist. "Black persons ear" trees live in Fl too. But a state here is named after the tree so Idk.
 
Vancouver Island (Pacific Northwest);
Mountain Hemlock, western Hemlock, Red Cedar, Yellow cedar (Alaskan Cedar), Shore Pine, vine maple.

Pacific Northwest (SW Washington). I would tend to ditto @ghues, yet change. Vine Maples. Doug fir, (I've been recently looking at many babies growing from seed logs in the mushroon pick'n area, possible forest? Dang they're so tiny but when you grab them as a hand hold to step over the log, some just pull right out roots and all, nice and flat spread. Hmmm.). In my wanderings a month and a half ago I found a reforested patch of Noble Firs, (pondering when/how to successfully do air layers from them, do it now and check back in spring or wait till spring to do?). Large nearby Cedars, looking at the low branches that have the look of small "seed logs" (rafts maybe) and new 5-6 foot starts under the tree, whacked a couple already but left them alone underground. And more Vine Maples.

Still only involved in prebonsai, vine maple mainly, but some are still alive.

Do any others grow here? You betcha, most anything except tropicals (and even some of those lately), we got water, forest floor duff, and not too harsh a winter freeze. But don't come here, you just won't like it because it rains 374 days a year.
 
the stars in my area and the trees which my bonsai friends an I most collect are American Hornbeam and wild (Highbush) blueberry. Another very good species is VA pine but it is near impossible to find one with a good trunk and low growth. Some of the guys have also collected sweetgum (liquidamber).

We don't see much in elms and hackberries in our collecting spots but they are around here. Plenty of winterberry in the bog but everything is long and spindly. I would collect a hawthorn if I found one, the common one here is Crus-galli. I would also collect serviceberry if I found one. (I have one from our local bonsai nursery.)

People love and collect American Beech but leaf size is a problem. They are, however, easy to collect.
 
Local plants - adapted to the area - qualities for Bonsai and fewer soil problems etc.

These are native to the Commonwealth Of Pennsylvania and distribution is from moderate to widespread throughout. Some are a few in certain regions only and some are protected here. Now not all are suitable for Bonsai but many are and grow nicely with little care.

Acer rubrum PA Native
Acer saccharum, Sugar Maple PA Native
Amelanchier canadensis, Shadblow Serviceberry native to South East PA only
Amelanchier laevis, Serviceberry PA Native
Asimina triloba, Pawpaw PA native to Southern PA only
Betula lenta, Cherry Birch PA Native
Betula nigra, River Birch PA Native
Carpinus caroliniana, American Hornbeam, Ironwood PA Native
Celtis occidentalis, Hackberry PA NAtive
Cercis canadensis, Eastern Redbud PA native to Southern PA only
Chionanthus virginicus, Fringetree PA Native
Cornus alternifolia, Pagoda Dogwood PA Native
Cornus florida, Dogwood PA Native
Diospyros virginiana, Common Persimmon PA Native
Fagus grandifolia, American Beech PA Native
Ilex opaca, American Holly PA Native protected
Juniperus virginiana, Eastern Red Cedar Native to PA
Magnolia virginiana, Sweetbay Magnolia PA Native protected
Nyssa sylvatica, Sour-gum, Black Tupelo PA Native
Pinus strobus, Eastern White Pine PA Native
Prunus americana, Wild Plum PA Native
Prunus serotina, Black Cherry PA Native
Prunus virginiana, Chokecherry Native to PA
Quercus alba, White Oak PA Native
Quercus coccinea, Scarlet Oak PA Native
Quercus palustris, Pin Oak PA Native
Quercus rubra, Red Oak PA Native
Rhus glabra, Smooth Sumac PA Native
Rhus typhina, Staghorn Sumac PA Native
Sassafras albidum, Sassafras PA Native
Tilia americana, American Basswood PA Native

Grimmy
 
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