Found what I think is a Wild Crab Apple, advice on prepping for collection needed.

[just.wing.it]

Personally I would have waited until spring just to be on the safe side, but prove us wrong! I hope it makes it. My gut says to leave the foliage on so it fuels root growth.

I understand this notion as well.... But I'm thinking that defoliating will force growth, and roots...maybe....
I have a feeling that summer ain't over round here...and I literally just unintentionally defoliated my elms, and ficus with black spot fungus.
They are growing back now...

Hmmm....you guys are giving me some things to think about....and that's the most important thing!

Gracias...as they say in Tokama Park.

 

[Soldano666]

My collected crabs will push growth well into oct. And I'm up here in Maine. So im sure it will have plenty of recovery time. I would have waited til spring as well, and hammerd the roots and done final chops right into the smallest pot I could. but what's done is done. Apples are tough and to answer the question the difference between reg apple and crabs is the size of the fruit. That's it.

 

[Soldano666]

Pretty easy to get the leaves small too. But you got a couple years growing out new branches first

 

[just.wing.it]

That's it.

Hmm....thanks for that tidbit!

 

[sorce]

will cut the leaves off tomorrow...

I hope you didnt !

I left them on my 925 and all the gonna die ones fell.

Do keep an eye on the second pair vack from the tip....if it is wilty, and misted/wet, it could choke out the small tip leaves that are trying to live!

S

 

[just.wing.it]

I hope you didnt !

I left them on my 925 and all the gonna die ones fell.

Do keep an eye on the second pair vack from the tip....if it is wilty, and misted/wet, it could choke out the small tip leaves that are trying to live!

S

Ya think...ok.
I'll take that advice too!

 

[Zach Smith]

Sorry for my absence guys....
Been a busy work day, on-call...
@rockm I hear you...and I greatly appreciate your input....
Obviously what's done is done...
It'll go in the garage this winter.

For now, I'll keep it soaking in the shade and see what happens...

@Zach Smith thank you for your input as well, you think defoliating would be a helpful move?
That was my initial thought too, which is why I asked...
It seems to make sense in my mind.


Fwiw, today was 90+ and the leaves are in good shape....I was wondering if they'd be droopy today.
I will cut the leaves off tomorrow....and keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks again guys.
Live and learn....I've been lucky so far with this kind of abusive behavior ?

With most of the roots removed, the leaves are kept up by whatever moisture is in the trunk and branches. Once this is gone, they'll wilt and they've dried out the trunk and branches in the process. Removing the leaves removes the demand for moisture from the trunk and branches. When new buds appear, new feeder roots are also appearing and there's a new source of moisture to the buds then leaves.

And as always, seal the trunk and large branch chops to keep in the moisture.

 

[rockm]

I understand this notion as well.... But I'm thinking that defoliating will force growth, and roots...maybe....
I have a feeling that summer ain't over round here...and I literally just unintentionally defoliated my elms, and ficus with black spot fungus.
They are growing back now...

Hmmm....you guys are giving me some things to think about....and that's the most important thing!

Gracias...as they say in Tokama Park.

The summer ain't over, but it will be in a few weeks. Depending on where you are the first frost could be here by the end of the month, or middle of October.
https://extension.umd.edu/hgic/fall-frostfreeze-dates-maryland

 

[just.wing.it]

The summer ain't over, but it will be in a few weeks. Depending on where you are the first frost could be here by the end of the month, or middle of October.
https://extension.umd.edu/hgic/fall-frostfreeze-dates-maryland

Hey man, thanks! That's a great link, I like the chart... I guess I'm closer to Westminster now... just a bit northeast.

 

[Captkingdom]

definitely looks like crab. be careful if you have any juniper in your collection

Would you mind telling me what you mean by this? I don't get it.

 

[rockm]

Would you mind telling me what you mean by this? I don't get it.

There is a fungal infection that uses both trees in its life cycle. Cedar apple rust transfers between both trees as it grows. It creates slimy brown growth on junipers and spots apple leaves.
https://www.planetnatural.com/pest-problem-solver/plant-disease/cedar-apple-rust/
If you have both trees within a couple of hundred yards of each other, chances are (if it's rainy and wet) you'll wind up with this on both trees...

 

[just.wing.it]

There is a fungal infection that uses both trees in its life cycle. Cedar apple rust transfers between both trees as it grows. It creates slimy brown growth on junipers and spots apple leaves.
https://www.planetnatural.com/pest-problem-solver/plant-disease/cedar-apple-rust/
If you have both trees within a couple of hundred yards of each other, chances are (if it's rainy and wet) you'll wind up with this on both trees...

Is Daconil a good deterrent?

 

[rockm]

Is Daconil a good deterrent?

That's one that will work for some of the things apples get...it will take care of some of the fungal stuff, but not the insects. Apples can be a pain in arse. They attract all kinds of stuff.

 

[Soldano666]

Is Daconil a good deterrent?

I use daconil april- mid June and again Sept - oct every other week and it's done pretty good for me. Out of 200 plus crabs Ive been growing out only a few have shown signs of cedar rust. Spray your junis too

 

[leatherback]

you think defoliating would be a helpful move?
That was my initial thought too, which is why I asked...
It seems to make sense in my mind.


Fwiw, today was 90+ and the leaves are in good shape....I was wondering if they'd be droopy today.
I will cut the leaves off tomorrow....and keep my fingers crossed.

I would NOT remove the leaves, certainly notif the keep their turgor up. Clearly the tree is coping keeping water in.

Leaving the leaves on gives you 2 things: Continued photosynthesis => building blocks for recovery, and the stored nutrients in the foliage which will be relocated into the tree before leaf fall further fuelling rootdevelopment.

 

[M. Frary]

My advice applies to temperate regions all over the world

Won't work for here.

 

[M. Frary]

The summer ain't over, but it will be in a few weeks. Depending on where you are the first frost could be here by the end of the month, or middle of October.
https://extension.umd.edu/hgic/fall-frostfreeze-dates-maryland

Had 38 this morning.

 

[just.wing.it]

Had 38 this morning.

Wow!
Really!
We got a storm, and it cooled down a little...but all last week was indexing over 100.

 

[AlainK]

There is a fungal infection that uses both trees in its life cycle. Cedar apple rust transfers between both trees as it grows. It creates slimy brown growth on junipers and spots apple leaves.

Pear trees are particularly prone to catch that fungus, I know it by experience

PS: we had 14°C (57 f) this morning, 27°C (80 F) in the afternoon and they forecast 31° (88 F) for next Wednesday!
And no rain.
Exceptional.

In a couple of years, I'll grow Ficus outdoors!

 

[queenofsheba52]

@just.wing.it

Mike, do you have an update on this tree?

I love it!