Gran_Puma
Sapling
It was working fine for me about an hour after they launched. Depending on how it is setup, I'm wondering if servers are getting hit hard at the moment. I noticed it is a very small install on iOS, just under 19 MB.
Totally! I've been there, and it seems that the login issues are resolved, probably just load related. Ryan actually posted something on the forum basically asking folks to calm down a little bit...as a software developer, I hope people are at least a little forgiving of technical stumbles at the start. This kind of launch is always going to be hard.
But then again, you’re paying $18/mo for this app. Logging into a service is not a difficult thing
To be clear, I don't blame Ryan for trying to run a business where he gets to do Bonsai and doesn't have to travel 40 weeks a year to talk at clubs. He has a small kid and that is super hard as a single parent.The app seems to be of very minimal value to standard tier users, frankly. I'm still in the wait and see camp, but there is reason to be wary--not least of which because of my experience in software where things are easier said than done.
It is disappointing to hear phrases like "democratizing education" and then charge such a high price for it. I think limiting the app, as @PowerTap mentions, is a purely financial decision. Locking the Academy to pro is also interesting, as it seems that that will be the focus of future content. So is standard just the back library, plus a knee-capped version of the app?
We will see, and I'm still optimistic, though cautiously so. It seems well suited for the beginner with a decent budget, which is pretty much myself, but I have to always consider the price against in person education, of which I have no shortage of options here in the PNW.
Ryan's terminology and jargon such as this bugs me. So much of what he says could be said with simple terminology yet he chooses the elaborate and wordy descriptions that dont add much value except $$, maybe. Maybe he is an aspiring poet and just having funThe app seems to be of very minimal value to standard tier users, frankly. I'm still in the wait and see camp, but there is reason to be wary--not least of which because of my experience in software where things are easier said than done.
It is disappointing to hear phrases like "democratizing education" and then charge such a high price for it. I think limiting the app, as @PowerTap mentions, is a purely financial decision. Locking the Academy to pro is also interesting, as it seems that that will be the focus of future content. So is standard just the back library, plus a knee-capped version of the app?
We will see, and I'm still optimistic, though cautiously so. It seems well suited for the beginner with a decent budget, which is pretty much myself, but I have to always consider the price against in person education, of which I have no shortage of options here in the PNW.
It seems like you just take issue with Ryan, not the app?Ryan's terminology and jargon such as this bugs me. So much of what he says could be said with simple terminology yet he chooses the elaborate and wordy descriptions that dont add much value except $$, maybe. Maybe he is an aspiring poet and just having fun. I'm not big on poetry though. For instance:
Cut paste is callus dressing
A pot is a ceramic vessel or geometric round
He made a video over 30 minutes long on how to make chop sticks
The anthropomorphism with his tree named Baker, in the HBO doc was pretty weird too.
So much more but I haven't watched much lately to recall.
Is the documentary out?The anthropomorphism with his tree named Baker, in the HBO doc was pretty weird too.
Won’t the previous livestreams still be available to subscribers? I can still access them now.Is the documentary out?
And about the topic on hand, I do love the information that Ryan passes on the Live/video streams I never watch them live, but every 3months I subscribe and watch the videos from the previous months, I don't feel I need those kind of things that the app provides so I'm not going to be a user of it
To each their own. I suppose we are all weird for posting unsolicited opinions on here, too.It seems like you just take issue with Ryan, not the app?
Not to derail the conversation, but is anthropomorphizing a living being which you take care of every day really all that weird? Most of my favorite trees in my collection have names, and I consider them members of my family. Maybe I'm just weird too.
Ive often just had it on in the background while working on or wiring out my own trees. After I watched properly. Is it only me who gets fired up to work on a tree after watching a stream? not just mirai, but im like this after watching Graham potter or Walter pall, etc videos. If this stuff doesnt inspire you.....I agree with the majority who seem to be disappointed with the app. I'm currently a Standard Mirai member and was planning to upgrade to Pro to fully utilize the app's functionality. However, with a capacity of 25 trees (unless you pay more), even my noob collection exceeds that.
I've never tuned into the livestreams, but I typically watch them within a week of release. I'll miss them; they're good background noise when I'm doing something monotonous at work. I'll probably keep my Standard membership for now due to the vast library, but I'm hesitant going forward. It sounds like we may lose out on everything except the beginner videos.
It’s definitely true that the app was launched before it was fully complete, but I think that is a good thing. In fact, I’d almost argue that the app was released too polished; one of the cornerstone principles of modern software development and release is iterative development, where it has been recognized that releasing an “unfinished” product to customers actually helps you finish it—and find product fit—substantially faster.In fact, Bonsai Mirai sent (at least to Pro subscribers) a message asking for patience while they work the bugs out of the system. Based upon my experience it’s a signal that the changes Mirai planned, including the app, were launched too soon. Also that Mirai is using the users to troubleshoot their evolution…. which weren’t properly developed, nor thought out with the user in mind. Making users pay for their R&D.