Early Fall Maple trunk chop

[leatherback]

Just leave it alone for now. Plants have dealt with winter for a few years. Also trees that had an elk pass by and taking a byte out off the top in fall.

Let nature sort it. If you get early frosts, put it in a shed. Let is slowly go dormant and the tree will sort it out. If the top dies further, come spring you chop back further.

I see no reason for concern

 

[PABonsai]

Just leave it alone for now. Plants have dealt with winter for a few years. Also trees that had an elk pass by and taking a byte out off the top in fall.

Let nature sort it. If you get early frosts, put it in a shed. Let is slowly go dormant and the tree will sort it out. If the top dies further, come spring you chop back further.

I see no reason for concern

Thanks. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for.

 

[rodeolthr]

Since you just chopped it last week, and there are already buds, can it be assumed that it was already backbudding before you chopped it? I get all sorts of new buds on my maple seedlings this time of year. They just seem to be getting themselves ready for next year. The tree will do whatever it wants. Just observe and try not to worry about it too much. I still have new growth extending on many of my maples, and it will most likely continue for the next couple weeks......if we get a bit more sun.

 

[leatherback]

Since you just chopped it last week, and there are already buds, can it be assumed that it was already backbudding before you chopped it? I get all sorts of new buds on my maple seedlings this time of year. They just seem to be getting themselves ready for next year. The tree will do whatever it wants. Just observe and try not to worry about it too much. I still have new growth extending on many of my maples, and it will most likely continue for the next couple weeks......if we get a bit more sun.

Exactly

 

[PABonsai]

Since you just chopped it last week, and there are already buds, can it be assumed that it was already backbudding before you chopped it? I get all sorts of new buds on my maple seedlings this time of year. They just seem to be getting themselves ready for next year. The tree will do whatever it wants. Just observe and try not to worry about it too much. I still have new growth extending on many of my maples, and it will most likely continue for the next couple weeks......if we get a bit more sun.

I don't know. None of them were visible if they were. This pic below was prechop. I don't think it was even considering back budding till I looped off all its green.

 

[0soyoung]

A. rubrum, I think.

The brown leaf end/margins are commonly caused by dryness/exposure in bright sun.

But, if you think "ITS FUNGUS!", simply remove those leaves and spray with a fungicide. If it is indeed a fungus, the infected leaves can never be cured and are just a spore source for continuing infection. Just about every fungicide only nixes the spores.

 

[bwaynef]

That "fungus" looked a lot more like leaf scorch. At the most invasive end of valid treatments, I'd have considered stripping the affected leaves. More realistically, make sure its watered appropriately and maybe move it into less sun.

As it is, see how it responds. If you can protect it from frosts while leaving it outside as it cools, I'd try that as well.

 

[PABonsai]

That "fungus" looked a lot more like leaf scorch. At the most invasive end of valid treatments, I'd have considered stripping the affected leaves. More realistically, make sure its watered appropriately and maybe move it into less sun.

As it is, see how it responds. If you can protect it from frosts while leaving it outside as it cools, I'd try that as well.

Well, that is what I was trying to find out via my other thread. @Brian Van Fleet had mentioned it maybe looked like it had accidentally dried out one day.

What concerned me most was that the leaf drying was concurrent with black spots which can't be seen in that picture.The black spots were right at the bulge where the petiole attaches to the trunk. So I got worried that fungus may shoot down the trunk because the black spot was on the apex petioles one day and the next day there were spots on the next set down. I freaked and chopped it thinking that will get rid of any possible infection. I guess it was the wrong course of action but too late now. I still don't know what it was, so I don't know.

 

[plant_dr]

This was just collected in June so it didn't have as many of the fine feeder roots it had had pre-collection to supply it's water needs throughout the summer. Viola, fried leaves!

Naturally the leaves furthest from the roots and also being the newest, most vulnerable, suffered the most damage since the tree couldn't push enough water up there.

 

[PABonsai]

This was just collected in June so it didn't have as many of the fine feeder roots it had had pre-collection to supply it's water needs throughout the summer.

I'm not following. This thing had 2 small taproots when collected. It's pot is now full of roots and it'll need a repot in spring already. It's certainly not lacking in the root department. This little stick has been doing great all summer up until last week.

 

[AlainK]

A. rubrum, I think.

Hmmm... Sick-amore I'd rather say.

 

[cmeg1]

By many maple seed.....since you enjoy this and get ready for next year!!
Full spectrum lights early indoors is a great season extender and have tree just like this by next Summer.
This tree if mine would of been better with a treatment and season growth left on to energize plant for Winter and strong growth in Spring.

 

[0soyoung]

Hmmm... Sick-amore I'd rather say.

As in plane tree (Platinus) or sycamore maple (Acer pseudoplatinus)? The petioles in the OP appear to be red, which is a (not completely reliable) characteristic of acer rubrum. Leaf shape and size ...

People around here have prized big trees that they call 'sycamore' but they don't have the popping bark characteristic of plane trees. I never see their fruit (maybe just due to inattentiveness on my part) to know if they produce samaras and, hence, are a maple or not. In other words, I am very confused about just what a 'sick-amore' is.


btw, I do like the pun

 

[PABonsai]

As in plane tree (Platinus) or sycamore maple (Acer pseudoplatinus)? The petioles in the OP appear to be red, which is a (not completely reliable) characteristic of acer rubrum. Leaf shape and size ...

People around here have prized big trees that they call 'sycamore' but they don't have the popping bark characteristic of plane trees. I never see their fruit (maybe just due to inattentiveness on my part) to know if they produce samaras and, hence, are a maple or not. In other words, I am very confused about just what a 'sick-amore' is.


btw, I do like the pun

Having looked through some leaf photos to me it looks an awful lot like sycamore maple. Also aren't red maple leaves usually dark greenish/red?

 

[PABonsai]

By many maple seed.....since you enjoy this and get ready for next year!!

Lol. Should have seen me Sunday grabbing handfuls of samaras off my parents' Japanese maple.

 

[0soyoung]

Having looked through some leaf photos to me it looks an awful lot like sycamore maple. Also aren't red maple leaves usually dark greenish/red?

Red maple (acer rubrum) leaves are usually green with red petioles. I wouldn't call them 'dark green', however, because they don't seem to be remarkably different from lots of other green leaves. They (leaves) do emerge in red and in fall they usually turn bright red, though I have a mystery cultivar from ArborDay.org that turns yellow instead. The emergent growth that was at the top of yours looked a lot like on my red maples. The leaf size was about right (and dendrology is mindbogglingly difficult for me, especially via pix only).

It removes a lot, if not all, doubt if sycamore maples are common around where you found this.

 

[PABonsai]

Red maple (acer rubrum) leaves are usually green with red petioles. I wouldn't call them 'dark green', however, because they don't seem to be remarkably different from lots of other green leaves. They (leaves) do emerge in red and in fall they usually turn bright red, though I have a mystery cultivar from ArborDay.org that turns yellow instead. The emergent growth that was at the top of yours looked a lot like on my red maples. The leaf size was about right (and dendrology is mindbogglingly difficult for me, especially via pix only).

It removes a lot, if not all, doubt if sycamore maples are common around where you found this.

Finally found a good one...here it was in full swing a few weeks ago (mid summer) Now that y'all got your chuckles in, the conversation has gotten interesting.

 

[0soyoung]

Got a pic of the underside of these leaves?
What color is the petiole?

Size and shape is like my acer rubrum (but maybe ArborDay lied and it is really a "sick-amore").

 

[cmeg1]

handfuls of samaras off my parents' Japanese maple.

Awesome,I’ve never used fresh seed,but Should be easy to sprout!

 

[PABonsai]

Awesome,I’ve never used fresh seed,but Should be easy to sprout!

I'll probably just let it sit in a paper bag until January or so. I don't have room for a big off season grow operation like you.