Driveway Shrubs, to harvest or not?
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Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
It's not whether the tree looks good or not (because as a landscape shrub I agree with you)... it's the fact that hinokis don't backbud. Time to brush up on your branch grafting skills
Think of it like a Japanese black pine that had no interior growth, and whether it would be worth it to graft all new branches... or simply start with a different stock plant that had better structure.
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
I got your point as not worth it for bonsai.It's not whether the tree looks good or not (because as a landscape shrub I agree with you)... it's the fact that hinokis don't backbud. Time to brush up on your branch grafting skills
Think of it like a Japanese black pine that had no interior growth, and whether it would be worth it to graft all new branches... or simply start with a different stock plant that had better structure.
As a noob it looks good.
OMG! I am one of those people who potentially vote for a crappy bonsai as best of show tree.
For shame for shame for shame … (Gomer Pyle)
penumbra
Imperial Masterpiece
I love the way things like this date us.
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
That was on purpose
penumbra
Imperial Masterpiece
Oh I know. I was just thinking about a glass bottle of Coke for a nickle.That was on purpose
MSU JBoots
Shohin
Oh no doubt. That’s was part of my reason for taking on this project. I wanted an excuse to practice grafting if it survives. It’s more for learning and practicing techniques than for actually creating a great looking tree.It's not whether the tree looks good or not (because as a landscape shrub I agree with you)... it's the fact that hinokis don't backbud. Time to brush up on your branch grafting skills
Think of it like a Japanese black pine that had no interior growth, and whether it would be worth it to graft all new branches... or simply start with a different stock plant that had better structure.
MSU JBoots
Shohin
In the last few days the shrub in the grow box has taken a down turn. It’s not the best photo but you can see the drab color compared to the more green shrub in the ground. It was pretty hot over the weekend maybe I should have watered it more. Either way I have my doubts it will survive.
penumbra
Imperial Masterpiece
Unfortunately I think it is already dead.
MSU JBoots
Shohin
“Think” it’s dead…
Kidding. You’re most likely correct. RIP. It will make a nice addition to a bonfire someday.
Kidding. You’re most likely correct. RIP. It will make a nice addition to a bonfire someday.
Hinoki wood can be chipped off and tinctured in alcohol for a nice aroma.
MSU JBoots
Shohin
Yeah I harvested them the same day.
MSU JBoots
Shohin
Even though it died I took the opportunity to roughly style the shrub with some guy wires. Had it survived I would have bent some of those smaller lower branches I jinned for approach grafts on the larger branches to get more foliage close to the trunk. All in all I gained some experience and had fun so not a total loss. I still have the one in the ground in the back yard so maybe in a couple years after it gains strength I can collect and style it.
MSU JBoots
Shohin
I was thinking more about the tree that died in the grow box. It was placed right next to the shrub in the ground so it got the same sun. They jade very similar root systems. The big difference was the grow box and the soil. I’m guessing since it was mostly 50/50 pumice and bonsai jack organic mix that it didn’t get watered enough. However I overlooked the fact that the leftover boards I used to construct the grow box were pressure treated. Would that have killed the tree? I don’t want to make that same mistake in the future if that was the main cause of death.
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Nah, sorry. Pressure-treated wood is my go to for grow boxes and I’ve never had a problem with the health of the trees placed in them.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
2 parts bad advice.
Do NOT rummage around the roots
Do NOT remove more foliage. You need the foiage to root.
Have you been misting the foliage multiple times a day?
MSU JBoots
Shohin
My wife have reduced the foliage heavily earlier in the spring before I dug them up. That was before the idea of pulling them out ever occurred. So it was weak but the other survived. I considered poor repotting technique and pockets of air as well but forgot to mention that in my post. The hole for the other shrub was just deep enough to bury the rootball.
MSU JBoots
Shohin
I had been misting twice or 3x a day for a couple weeks at least. Then I felt it was doing ok so I stopped. Maybe I should have kept going.
