Joe Dupre'
Omono
Heck, I have to have them order it for me now. No biggie. Put order in by 3;00 PM and it's there the next morning...........for free.
Da New 8822
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Joe Dupre'
Omono
They might be getting wise to us, though. It has been under $9.00 a bag for years. My buddy just bought a couple bags recently and they were about $12.00 a bag.
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
Orion_metalhead
Masterpiece
Price increase is entirely due to gasoline costs and transport. That's my guess.
Orion_metalhead
Masterpiece
There is a feed store around the block from me. I should give them a call to see if they carry.
Leo in N E Illinois
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@Orion_metalhead & @Bonsai Nut - just a useless factoid that is not really helpful. I live in Lake County Illinois, in horsey country. The Temple Lippizzan horses are on a farm 7 miles from me. The feed store closest to the Lippizzaner farms, happens to stock grit for the emu and ostrich farms in the area. No shit. Ostrich grit is quartzite chunks the size of golf balls. Emu grit is bigger than anything I've seen for turkeys by far, but not quite golf ball size. Both are too large to be useful for bonsai, so like I said, just a useless factoid.
But there is a grit for every size bird you want to raise. Pigeon grit has quartzite and crushed oyster shell and licorice, and or anise added to it to attract the pigeons to it, they are "too stupid" to peck at grit without an attractant. The feed store clerk called the attractant "Sen-Sen", which I had to look up, and it is an old timey, no longer made, confection of anise and licorice with gum arabic, maltodextrin and sugar. The comment on pigeon intelligence was the feed store clerk's, not mine. Though as a city dweller, I am not overly fond of them.
But there is a grit for every size bird you want to raise. Pigeon grit has quartzite and crushed oyster shell and licorice, and or anise added to it to attract the pigeons to it, they are "too stupid" to peck at grit without an attractant. The feed store clerk called the attractant "Sen-Sen", which I had to look up, and it is an old timey, no longer made, confection of anise and licorice with gum arabic, maltodextrin and sugar. The comment on pigeon intelligence was the feed store clerk's, not mine. Though as a city dweller, I am not overly fond of them.
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
Really interesting! Makes sense when you think about it. I got my poultry grit info from a mine that actually makes it - they have to crush it, screen it, and then wash it. That's why there is no dust or fines. They didn't add oyster shell or other ingredients... I assume you either do it on your own or buy it from a secondary processor. Particularly with commercial chicken farms, I assume they use a lot of it!
Moridin
Shohin
I wish.
The thing is in the automotive industry the #8822 is rarely used apart from very large oil spills/fluid cleanup (many gallons) and a larger particle size would be used even less equaling to less sales. I sell this: https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NFDSF75E about 100x more than I do the 8822 as it is the superfine stuff and gets used way more in automotive repair shops due to smaller size spills. I always have a open bag of the sf75e open at the store for dropped bottles on the sales floor or in the stockroom for that reason.
Japonicus
Imperial Masterpiece
If you’re talking about the crushed granite, I get 50# bags at a tack n feed store like Southern States
that sells farm feed, labeled Chicken Grower grit for less than $10.
There are different sizes but the only one I’ve used is the Grower size.
it is porous but heavy. Not as porous as lava rock.
Japonicus
Imperial Masterpiece
Sorry I hadn’t made it that far in the thread, just the 1st 2 pages.
Arlithrien
Shohin
Napa gets their stuff from EP minerals. They do sell a more coarse DE but you have to order it by the pallet/truckload. Im pretty sure EP minerals is aware of the use in bonsai as well but it's too niche for them to produce in small quantities.
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
Absolutely would be MY move, too. If it was MY mineral company, honestly. Even AS a TinyTree Practitioner.
Orion_metalhead
Masterpiece
Who would buy truckloads of the coarser de?
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
I would assume that's wholesale.
Does DE ever get used in landscaping situations.?
I know the aquarium industry uses it.. at LEAST powdered..
Hazardous Material Clean Up.,
DOT..
Maybe?
hampton
Shohin
Both for DOT stuff and general industrial application
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
Neat! Thanks!!
James W.
Chumono
All kinds of higher end landscaping
Big customers are golf courses
hampton
Shohin
That's interesting, what's the application for golf courses?
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
Here are some of the uses shared on the Website.
Axis diatomaceous earth and clay premium soil amendments for healthy green golf courses, landscaping, sports turfs and rooftop gardens | EP Minerals
EP Minerals' Axis® products, the all-natural solution for healthy green golf courses, landscaping, sports turfs and rooftop gardens. AxisDE® diatomaceous earth products and Axis Ceramic® clay products are premium soil amendments designed to reduce water usage, improve drainage, reduce soil...
epminerals.com
Moridin
Shohin
So my employees told me a guy had come into the store a few times, when I wasn't here, to buy #8822 and when they told him what I use it for he said he does the same.
He finally came in today while I was here.
He didn't seem to know about this site but had seen it talked about online.
He finally came in today while I was here.
He didn't seem to know about this site but had seen it talked about online.
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