Climate change and bonsai

[A. Gorilla]

Is it climate change though? Is it really?

I consider it more "systemic temperature change-ism".

You aren't change-ist, are you?

Changeism is inherent to the patriarchal institutions...

I can't even do it. Commies parody themselves just fine.

 

[Ollie]

Looks like the OP opened up the worm can and did a runner

Guilty, haven't been checking in enough to keep up!

And my knowledge of American politics is largely limited to "grab her by the p*ssy"

 

[HorseloverFat]

Guilty, haven't been checking in enough to keep up!

And my knowledge of American politics is largely limited to "grab her by the p*ssy"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[AlainK]

the courts altered mail in voting criteria, for covid.

etc.

Wow! I thought you lived in the USA, not in China or Iran.

So, from January 17th 2017 until today, the system went so corrupted that people's votes were stolen ? Blimey ! Is that what the childish crook meant by "make Amerika great again" ? At least, people convicted for war crimes and other swindles from the tyrant's family have been exonarated. Nepotism rules OK if that's what you mean by "democracy".

Make America great again : get back to democracy, find your core values again. The last pesidency looks like what'is the political system in every corrupted states that the previous administration sided with : Russia, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (a model of democracy and human rights), etc.

Not that we can be sure the next one will do much better, but at least, he's an honest man. What the previous one was not.

Often, politicians lie. Most of the time it's because they are convinced it's in the people's interest. It's scary : that's what Mao, Franco, Mussolini, che Guevara, etc. did.

But "that" president only sought his own interest, despicable. I still don't understand how that many people support such a "peigne-cul"...

 

[Paradox]

For myself, I think it may become harder for me to keep species like Scots pine, Mugo and Japanese White pine that all like a cold winter.

As for the rest of the political and science argument. I have seen the effects of warmer average ocean temperatures where I live over the past 30 years with my own eyes.
Its been documented in the animal species we see here in the summer and the migration patterns of fish locally.

I am done arguing about it with people that refuse to see the forest through the trees.
You can't convince someone that has already made up their mind.
For most of us alive, it probably wont matter much by the time things really go to shit we will be dead.
Those that don't care, don't care for their own selfish reasons and to hell with future generations.
They can't be bothered to care for anyone besides themselves.

 

[AlainK]

Btw, hope you had a nice Christmas

I did. I cooked a "Daube provençale" for my Mum, my son wanted something different and we couldn't gather the whole family because of the Kansas flu.

And I'll spent the 31st of December with a friend with whom I don't have to wear a mask, I think we've already shared all the viruses in the list of lethal love

 

[AlainK]

Changeism is inherent to the patriarchal institutions...

I can't even do it. Commies parody themselves just fine.

Huh huh...

So strange, and there's not even a reference to "god", or any invitation to "pray". It's difficult to understand statyements that mix terms like "changeism" (???) and "commies" ( )

Maybe I can't get it all, must be too deep for me...

PS: I'm sincerely interested in knowing more about what you mean by "Changeism is inherent to the patriarchal institutions". I admit I don't understand the concept at all, what do you mean exactly ? It looks very obscure to me, what's the idea of it ?...

 

[BonjourBonsai]

Huh huh...

So strange, and there's not even a reference to "god", or any invitation to "pray". It's difficult to understand statyements that mix terms like "changeism" (???) and "commies" ( )

Maybe I can't get it all, must be too deep for me...

PS: I'm sincerely interested in knowing more about what you mean by "Changeism is inherent to the patriarchal institutions". I admit I don't understand the concept at all, what do you mean exactly ? It looks very obscure to me, what's the idea of it ?...

Alain, je parle un peu français, mais rien de tel que tu parles anglais. je parle aussi quelques autres langues. je suis très inhabituel aux Etats-Unis. mais c'est parce que j'aime le bonsaï merci de partager tus points de vue.

 

[JoeR]

fantastic post.

this was a great line: People on the right think people on the left are mostly good people with bad ideas. People on the left think people on the right are bad people with bad ideas

thanks big gov, media, celebs and fools


signing up for my gun license class soon btw, before were all wearing chinese red or permitting innocent peoples business and homes to be burned down


sincerely, the pot smoking, surfer, freak (reasonably, not out of control), conservative


(and to each their own... i work hard enough and appreciate and understand what i have in life to laugh at most of it with a smirk on my face while paying taxes;
it wont change my work ethic or happiness. I know what i stand for and what id go down for w a smile, and i hope people think before they tap into the lot of us who feel the same way)

Pshhh!! Don't you know you can't be conservative and smoke weed??

I think it's funny that only United states inhabitants think boxed like 'conservatives versus liberals' and 'republicans versus democrats'.
People of the free world, letting themselves be described in single words. You're either with us, or against us. That's crazy.
Totally forgetting that they have more common grounds than they have differences.

Its purposeful line drawing in the sand. Who, or why, is encouraging it- i don't know. But we are subconsciously being forced to polarize, from one extreme to another, being pit against fellow Americans. No room is left for rational, middle opinions or people. Whats scary, is that its working and no one is paying attention. This is also occurring in more ways than just party lines. There is a reason the founding fathers did not want a two party system. I always think about Mark Comstock on FB, who is very liberal leaning. Sure, fine, and I respect him greatly. But ive read comments on his posts and he can be intolerant of outside opinions, often deleting people who disagree. Social media does this- shows you only what you agree with and want to see, not allowing for outside opinions to be considered. Furthering the depth of our ignorant, one sided holes. So we can continue pandering to only our fellow minded FB friends, enriching our lopsided opinions.

We'll be too busy fighting amongst ourselves to notice anything around us happening.


What happened to the *united* states of america...


If anyone is bored, I highly!! Recommend you watch "The social dilemma" on netflix about social media. Very eye opening yet not conspiracy crap posting.

 

[JoeR]

etc.

Wow! I thought you lived in the USA, not in China or Iran.

So, from January 17th 2017 until today, the system went so corrupted that people's votes were stolen ? Blimey ! Is that what the childish crook meant by "make Amerika great again" ? At least, people convicted for war crimes and other swindles from the tyrant's family have been exonarated. Nepotism rules OK if that's what you mean by "democracy".

Make America great again : get back to democracy, find your core values again. The last pesidency looks like what'is the political system in every corrupted states that the previous administration sided with : Russia, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (a model of democracy and human rights), etc.

Not that we can be sure the next one will do much better, but at least, he's an honest man. What the previous one was not.

Often, politicians lie. Most of the time it's because they are convinced it's in the people's interest. It's scary : that's what Mao, Franco, Mussolini, che Guevara, etc. did.

But "that" president only sought his own interest, despicable. I still don't understand how that many people support such a "peigne-cul"...

I have no doubt that there is fraudulent activity in every single American election. I have no idea how much occurred this election, ive read many conflicting articles about it. But, what I can tell you, is that North Carolina is the state I voted in. The winner was called when 99% of votes were in. You can check on the government website if your vote counted.

I voted in person on election day. I have checked, and checked, and checked, for my vote on the website.

It never showed up.

I dont know why or how. But if the state gov website doesn't show it, what the hell happened and should I assume it was even counted? Who knows.

This thread is exhausting yet consuming.

 

[JoeR]

For myself, I think it may become harder for me to keep species like Scots pine, Mugo and Japanese White pine that all like a cold winter.

As for the rest of the political and science argument. I have seen the effects of warmer average ocean temperatures where I live over the past 30 years with my own eyes.
Its been documented in the animal species we see here in the summer and the migration patterns of fish locally.

I am done arguing about it with people that refuse to see the forest through the trees.
You can't convince someone that has already made up their mind.
For most of us alive, it probably wont matter much by the time things really go to shit we will be dead.
Those that don't care, don't care for their own selfish reasons and to hell with future generations.
They can't be bothered to care for anyone besides themselves.

I was waiting for you to chime in, I remember talking about your career and CC experiences before. Fisheries biologist or similar, I think?

This reminds me, I always think about my conservation biology professor when talking about CC. He said once- What animals receive the attention and funding for conservation? Well, the cute, fuzzy, big mammals like tigers. Why?

Because they're harder to ignore. Theyre more tangible. And most importantly, theyre adorable!

Its extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get people to give a crap about anything that doesn't directly impact them personally.

They had to tour tiger cubs around the country to gain any momentum for them. And still, people really don't care.

We don't notice or care about many of these problems until they are eminent, direct threats to a species persistence, and by then its often too late.

 

[AlainK]

No room is left for rational, middle opinions or people

I half agree with you.

 

[AlainK]

merci de partager tus points de vue.

Ah, mon point de vue, tu sais, you know, it can sometmes be irrelevant, il peut parfois être déplacé. Mais c'est sympathique de te lire en français, it's nice to read you in French. See how the English language is much shorter to write (tu vois à quel point la langue anglaise est plus courte à écrire)

Bon, je raconte tout de même pas mal de conneries, mais toujours avec beaucoup de sincérité.
OK, I admit I tell a lot of bullshit, but always

 

[JoeR]

I always think about Mark Comstock on FB, who is very liberal leaning. Sure, fine, and I respect him greatly. But ive read comments on his posts and he can be intolerant of outside opinions, often deleting people who disagree. Social media does this- shows you only what you agree with and want to see, not allowing for outside opinions to be considered. Furthering the depth of our ignorant, one sided holes. So we can continue pandering to only our fellow minded FB friends, enriching our lopsided opinions.

Sorry I didn't mean to single him out; I also meant to say I see the same things from the opposite, conservative side of the spectrum on my friends list.

 

[AlainK]

merci de partager tus points de vue.

Ah, mon point de vue, tu sais, you know, it can sometmes be irrelevant, il peut parfois être déplacé. Mais c'est sympathique de te lire en français, it's nice to read you in French. See how the English language is much shorter to write (tu vois à quel point la langue anglaise est plus courte à écrire)

Bon, je raconte tout de même pas mal de conneries, mais toujours avec beaucoup de sincérité.
OK, I admit I tell a lot of bullshit, but I'm always totally sincere

Pas sûr que cela joue en ma faveur

You know that a few thousand people still speak a variant of French in Maine, Vermont, and a few other places. Cajun is almost a different language, even harder to understand than "joual" in Québec, the working-class dialect that sounds so exotic to our "metropolitan" ears :

I confess that the variety of French that I speak is "upper-middle-class standard French" now, the supposedly best form of French, from the Loire Valley. Yet, when I was a kid, I was sometimes laughed at because of my accent - I played on that.

I should download Skype or another app, if someone wants to practise French, English, Franglish, etc. or exchange about history, politics, arts, trees or anything else, après tout, pourquoi pas ? I'll think about it

 

[Vance Wood]

We won't have too much trouble, our grandkids will be really pissed off at us.

The education system that we have provided for our children/grandchildren is so poor that they have become too dumb to understand anything but fantasies, and fairly stories disguised as fact and history. When all of this fails and falls apart they will be like a deer in the head lights. They would rather go after farting cows than and the people that grow them than actually realize the world is turning a direction they cannot control.

 

[Vance Wood]

Ah, mon point de vue, tu sais, you know, it can sometmes be irrelevant, il peut parfois être déplacé. Mais c'est sympathique de te lire en français, it's nice to read you in French. See how the English language is much shorter to write (tu vois à quel point la langue anglaise est plus courte à écrire)

Bon, je raconte tout de même pas mal de conneries, mais toujours avec beaucoup de sincérité.
OK, I admit I tell a lot of bullshit, but I'm always totally sincere

Pas sûr que cela joue en ma faveur

You know that a few thousand people still speak a variant of French in Maine, Vermont, and a few other places. Cajun is almost a different language, even harder to understand than "joual" in Québec, the working-class dialect that sounds so exotic to our "metropolitan" ears :

I confess that the variety of French that I speak is "upper-middle-class standard French" now, the supposedly best form of French, from the Loire Valley. Yet, when I was a kid, I was sometimes laughed at because of my accent - I played on that.

I should download Skype or another app, if someone wants to practise French, English, Franglish, etc. or exchange about history, politics, arts, trees or anything else, après tout, pourquoi pas ? I'll think about it

Now that Biden may be in the White House you will see America return to the Paris accords, which means in essence America will once again be paying Europe's bill for carbon emisions etc. If that is going to be the case how about righting you eco/political bovine scatology in English so we can understand what you are saying.

 

[rollwithak]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[rollwithak]

Just read the first post :

No, many of us are aware of climate change (fake news) and have posted messages about this (fake news, you're fired) and of course it does have consequences on how we tend ou trees. Climate change (fake news) is of course the biggest issue we all have to face, not only for our petty little world of bonsai, but for our children's future, which is a much, much more serious issue. I'm a father and I am responsible for my children's future.

The least I can do as a citizen is vote. I don't vote in the US, I vote in the EU, and preserving nature is one of the major points I consider when I vote.

But if I were a US citizen, there's no doubt I wouldn't vote for a crook, a lier, a swindler, a rude sexist, racist like DT. Not sure I would believe in everything that JB says, but that would be the "least worst solution":

Now, the presidential election is over, even DT can't but admit that he was beaten (he's a loser, he's fired), he even eventually didn't bar the congress massive spending and stimulus package

He tried to make a scorched-earth policy, leaving his own country in dire straits for his own benefits, he just doesn't care for his fellow citizens, that's so obvious. Playing golf while people are starving, dying, no empathy whatsoever. doesn't care a fig but how to make money ro more power. I can't believe so many people still support him.

What a pitiful segment of the history of the USA... I've been such a fan of the US since I was a kid, so disappinted to see how half the people there are so stupid. Well, it's about the same here I'm afraid,

Glad this episode of "fake news rules OK" is over now... (?)

Le bon sens est la chose la mieux partagée du monde.
La bêtise aussi.

Common sense is the best shared thing in the world.
Stupidity too.

Ignorance is bliss, that’s why people voted for Biden... it’s easier to have the politicians that lie to our faces and tell us what we want to hear, makes us feel warm and cozy so we sleep better at night.

 

[BonjourBonsai]

Now that Biden may be in the White House you will see America return to the Paris accords, which means in essence America will once again be paying Europe's bill for carbon emisions etc. If that is going to be the case how about righting you eco/political bovine scatology in English so we can understand what you are saying.

He did. And in French.