milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
Beautiful tree BTW!!! May healing come your way physically also.
Can you give me a precise, accurate definition for the term literati bonsai?
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milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
Of course Walter would say it that way!!! He is the king of "naturalistic" trees.
Wulfskaar
Masterpiece
I would call it literati. It will look forward to seeing you refine it.
JRidge
Yamadori
This is more like it! Thank you @Gabler for initiating the discussion.
This is eye opening not only philosophically but visually.
I love the deciduous or broadleaf literati. I see it in nature. Arbutus is a neat one that will snake through the trees with tufts of healthy foliage at any opening exposed to light.
I am in my own bubble and contemplating the opinions from different corners helps to improve my understanding of bonsai beyond the somewhat narrow definitions in books both old and new.
Here is one where I am not sure, is this cypress literati/bunjin or something else?
This is eye opening not only philosophically but visually.
I love the deciduous or broadleaf literati. I see it in nature. Arbutus is a neat one that will snake through the trees with tufts of healthy foliage at any opening exposed to light.
I am in my own bubble and contemplating the opinions from different corners helps to improve my understanding of bonsai beyond the somewhat narrow definitions in books both old and new.
Here is one where I am not sure, is this cypress literati/bunjin or something else?
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Deep Sea Diver
Imperial Masterpiece
Hmm… lots of good debate…. One thought
While searching for a meaning of a tree form modeled after trees which actually occur in nature.
In my experience would hazard to recommend one head into the interior of multiple growth forests around the world and look at the scrubby understory trees. Include species which are canopy trees but could never get enough light to grow into the canopy and have been trashed by falling detritus, snow or whatnot over the years. Then mentally bonsai each.
Thinking eventually one might comprehend what this thread is looking to put into words. That said, not sure descriptive ‘rules’ created by bonsai artists could accurately describe the multiplicity of ‘literati’ tree forms which occur in nature. At least this is what years of hiking in forests around the world tell me.
Happy New Year’s!
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While searching for a meaning of a tree form modeled after trees which actually occur in nature.
In my experience would hazard to recommend one head into the interior of multiple growth forests around the world and look at the scrubby understory trees. Include species which are canopy trees but could never get enough light to grow into the canopy and have been trashed by falling detritus, snow or whatnot over the years. Then mentally bonsai each.
Thinking eventually one might comprehend what this thread is looking to put into words. That said, not sure descriptive ‘rules’ created by bonsai artists could accurately describe the multiplicity of ‘literati’ tree forms which occur in nature. At least this is what years of hiking in forests around the world tell me.
Happy New Year’s!
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Deep Sea Diver
Imperial Masterpiece
Really good idea!
That’s a nice old pine. I’m sure there are images for other trees. Looks like a template for some of the images in the Mustard Seed Garden Manual
Or… bet there are plenty of images on the internet and YouTube of literati in the wild.
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That’s a nice old pine. I’m sure there are images for other trees. Looks like a template for some of the images in the Mustard Seed Garden Manual
Or… bet there are plenty of images on the internet and YouTube of literati in the wild.
Best
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Erika_Leaman
Mame
To add to @Deep Sea Diver
I find the study of real life, ancient and rugged trees and environments intrinsic to the practice and values of bonsai, so I often forget how fortunate I am to be able to experience this life, and how many are locked into city living.
Erika_Leaman
Mame
leatherback
The Treedeemer
was this shared yet?
Part of the excellent video series highlighting individual questions from viewers by bonsai experts from around the world.
Part of the excellent video series highlighting individual questions from viewers by bonsai experts from around the world.
Deep Sea Diver
Imperial Masterpiece
Very cool Jelle!
This video is a great gateway folks can enter to begin to understand the large variety of harsh conditions trees can endure in nature.
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JohnnyUtah
Sapling
After a lot of thought more or less because this thread "maybe" was a response to one of my own.
Thoughts.
Bunjin, or literati bonsai, occupies a unique and often misunderstood place within the bonsai world. Its sparse lines, elongated trunks, and minimal foliage frequently invite questions: is it “finished”? Does it follow conventional rules? Is it correct? From a traditional craft perspective, these questions make sense—but they miss the deeper significance of bunjin as a form of living sculpture and expressive practice.
Seen through an art-forward lens, bunjin is not a compromise or a shortcut. It is a medium for poetic narrative and formal exploration. Each bend, each carefully pruned branch, becomes a gesture. The negative space around the tree is as significant as the living material itself. Every reduction—the absence of foliage, the tension of an exposed branch—is deliberate, intentional, and expressive.
In conventional bonsai, fullness and balance often dominate visual priorities. In bunjin, the eye is drawn to line, proportion, and movement. Minimalism allows the tree to speak in a visual language akin to drawing or sculpture:
Here, craft and art intersect: horticultural knowledge ensures the tree survives under minimal conditions, but the design decisions transform it into an expressive object.
Bunjin functions as a narrative device. Its leaning, contorted trunks suggest movement, endurance, and resilience. Trees tell stories of adversity, solitude, and elegance in imperfection. From an art perspective, the tree is more than a living plant—it is an evolving sculpture, a temporal artwork whose changing form carries both the maker’s hand and the lived experience of the tree itself.
Critics sometimes dismiss bunjin as “random” or “neglectful,” but the apparent simplicity is deceptive. Every pruning cut, every wire placement, every decision to leave or remove a branch is an act of authorial presence. Bunjin demonstrates that art and craft are inseparable: the practitioner’s choices are visible, intentional, and accountable to both the tree and the design.
Bunjin cannot exist without deep craft knowledge. Understanding water, light, species-specific stress tolerance, and pruning consequences is essential. Art cannot survive without craft: expressive freedom in bunjin is contingent on mastery of the material. Craft is not a limitation; it is the medium that enables the expressive potential of the tree.
Bunjin is often described as “freeform,” but this is misleading. Its power comes from the manipulation of perceived rules.
There are clear principles: graceful trunk movement, taper, branch flow, and proportional tension. Yet these are guidelines rather than prescriptions. Sparse or improbably angled branches may appear to break rules—but these apparent deviations are deliberate, grounded in both craft knowledge and aesthetic judgment.
The practitioner’s skill lies in balancing perception and reality: to the viewer, the tree seems spontaneous, organic, or even contrarian; behind the appearance is decades of practice, careful pruning, and subtle management of growth. Rules in bunjin function as a language of expectation, and departures from that language become expressive precisely because the maker understands the craft deeply enough to choose when and how to bend them.
Bunjin can be appreciated as living contemporary art:
From this perspective, bunjin is not a subset of bonsai—it is a discipline of sculpture, narrative, and time-based practice.
Bunjin demonstrates that art and craft are not opposed—they are complementary. Craft ensures survival, structure, and longevity. Art frames those decisions into expression, narrative, and gesture.
Its power lies not in density, ornamentation, or ostentation, but in restraint, intention, and visible judgment. Its authority comes from mastery: the practitioner knows how far the tree can be reduced, how to balance tension, and how to allow minimal elements to carry maximal expression.
Bunjin does not need art discourse to defend it, nor should it be romanticized as pure freedom. It is a proving ground for craft and art simultaneously: disciplined, expressive, and eloquent in its silence.
Thoughts.
Bunjin / Literati Bonsai: An Art-Forward Defense
Bunjin, or literati bonsai, occupies a unique and often misunderstood place within the bonsai world. Its sparse lines, elongated trunks, and minimal foliage frequently invite questions: is it “finished”? Does it follow conventional rules? Is it correct? From a traditional craft perspective, these questions make sense—but they miss the deeper significance of bunjin as a form of living sculpture and expressive practice.
Seen through an art-forward lens, bunjin is not a compromise or a shortcut. It is a medium for poetic narrative and formal exploration. Each bend, each carefully pruned branch, becomes a gesture. The negative space around the tree is as significant as the living material itself. Every reduction—the absence of foliage, the tension of an exposed branch—is deliberate, intentional, and expressive.
1. Minimalism as Expression
In conventional bonsai, fullness and balance often dominate visual priorities. In bunjin, the eye is drawn to line, proportion, and movement. Minimalism allows the tree to speak in a visual language akin to drawing or sculpture:
- A single winding trunk evokes struggle against wind, gravity, or adversity.
- The placement of each branch creates rhythm and tension, akin to a musical composition.
- Empty space—the areas intentionally left untouched—carries meaning as much as foliage or wire.
Here, craft and art intersect: horticultural knowledge ensures the tree survives under minimal conditions, but the design decisions transform it into an expressive object.
2. Narrative and Metaphor
Bunjin functions as a narrative device. Its leaning, contorted trunks suggest movement, endurance, and resilience. Trees tell stories of adversity, solitude, and elegance in imperfection. From an art perspective, the tree is more than a living plant—it is an evolving sculpture, a temporal artwork whose changing form carries both the maker’s hand and the lived experience of the tree itself.
3. Authorship and Intention
Critics sometimes dismiss bunjin as “random” or “neglectful,” but the apparent simplicity is deceptive. Every pruning cut, every wire placement, every decision to leave or remove a branch is an act of authorial presence. Bunjin demonstrates that art and craft are inseparable: the practitioner’s choices are visible, intentional, and accountable to both the tree and the design.
4. Craft as Foundation for Expression
Bunjin cannot exist without deep craft knowledge. Understanding water, light, species-specific stress tolerance, and pruning consequences is essential. Art cannot survive without craft: expressive freedom in bunjin is contingent on mastery of the material. Craft is not a limitation; it is the medium that enables the expressive potential of the tree.
5. Perceived Rules and the Illusion of Freedom
Bunjin is often described as “freeform,” but this is misleading. Its power comes from the manipulation of perceived rules.
There are clear principles: graceful trunk movement, taper, branch flow, and proportional tension. Yet these are guidelines rather than prescriptions. Sparse or improbably angled branches may appear to break rules—but these apparent deviations are deliberate, grounded in both craft knowledge and aesthetic judgment.
The practitioner’s skill lies in balancing perception and reality: to the viewer, the tree seems spontaneous, organic, or even contrarian; behind the appearance is decades of practice, careful pruning, and subtle management of growth. Rules in bunjin function as a language of expectation, and departures from that language become expressive precisely because the maker understands the craft deeply enough to choose when and how to bend them.
6. Bunjin as Contemporary Art Practice
Bunjin can be appreciated as living contemporary art:
- It is temporal, evolving across seasons and years.
- It is interactive, engaging the viewer with line, space, and implied motion.
- It is conceptual, conveying narrative and metaphor through form and restraint.
- It is durational, integrating both the maker’s intervention and ongoing care into the work.
From this perspective, bunjin is not a subset of bonsai—it is a discipline of sculpture, narrative, and time-based practice.
7. Conclusion: Mastery, Restraint, and Art
Bunjin demonstrates that art and craft are not opposed—they are complementary. Craft ensures survival, structure, and longevity. Art frames those decisions into expression, narrative, and gesture.
Its power lies not in density, ornamentation, or ostentation, but in restraint, intention, and visible judgment. Its authority comes from mastery: the practitioner knows how far the tree can be reduced, how to balance tension, and how to allow minimal elements to carry maximal expression.
Bunjin does not need art discourse to defend it, nor should it be romanticized as pure freedom. It is a proving ground for craft and art simultaneously: disciplined, expressive, and eloquent in its silence.
This thread is a perfect example of why Westerners (or those outside of a particular culture) will never be able to fully understand and appreciate the intricacies of an Asian culture. Make bonsai your own… as long as you are trying to define and copy foreign concepts and understanding to design your trees you will never be anything but a mimic and copycat.
BrianBay9
Masterpiece
"Can you give me a precise, accurate definition for the term literati bonsai?"
No.
No.
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
Have you ever seen what bears scratching their backs do to trees??? lol They snap off branches, rip off bark, push them over and all kinds a fun!
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
Exactly!
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
Deep Sea Diver
Imperial Masterpiece
Yep. They can make some nice pre bonsai stock. Cougar scratch trees can also be pretty nice.
Cheers
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Jetson1950
Shohin
Okay, I’ll be the dork. Literati in training! I always like pictures over words. 
Gabler
Masterpiece
It was in response to your thread, but not necessarily a response to anything you did or said. That is to say, I don't think you did or said anything controversial. The topic of literati itself just tends to spark controversy, and I wanted to set a side a space to hash that out, so it didn't gum up your progression thread.
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