Artisans Cup selections

Excerpt:

"THE FUTURE OF THE ARTISANS CUP
This is only the beginning. By 2025,
The Artisans Cup will be held at one of
New York’s finest art museums."

You hear that East-Coasters?

10 Years and counting - let's get crackin'!!!
Bet they're aiming for MoMA.
In any case, by then I'll be in my mid-60's and unable to pick up my trees. Might as well be in Oregon again...;-)
 
Bet they're aiming for MoMA.
In any case, by then I'll be in my mid-60's and unable to pick up my trees. Might as well be in Oregon again...;-)

MoMa, uggggg... I hope not, I get vertigo from that spiral every time I go. That built in "hip railing" is definitely not high enough for my liking. Oddly enough, I never get vertigo when hiking out on a mountainside, weird huh?

On the plus side, I'll just be coming up on 42, so I'll probably be able to still lift even my privet (might need an assistant though, we'll see how well I can stay in shape!)

Edit: Just realized I mixed up the MoMa with the Guggenheim... Oops:rolleyes: Nevermind, the MoMA would be cool. Wonder If I should grow a bunch of cookie-cutter pines and make a shohin display with them in front of Warhol's Campbell's Soup Cans... :D

Or Better Yet, someone grow an Arborvitae or Eastern Red Cedar Forest that's styled like European Cypress to put in front of Van Gogh's Starry Night...;)

But in all seriousness - if bonsai is about distilling the essence of the entire environment into one tree, shouldn't that mean the exhibit would be set up in the "minimalist" wing? Something to ponder...
 
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So let me say as a volunteer at the event, and this being the first time i have ever really seen trees, IT WAS OVERWHELMING. It met many of my expectations and at the same time i was slightly dissapointed as well.
I was there Sunday from 12-5ish. Being a exibition docent was awesome, as far as the photography goes, we were told people could take pictures of a few trees but the goal was to not let anyone capture the show in its entirety. Not to mention the traffic jams that would cause in the flow of things. I personnally laid hands on apprx 35+ trees after the show, moving them to an area for entrants to pick them up. I left shortly after this due being one of the ones that was slightly overwhelmed emotionally, not to tears but in shear awe, and some major adrenaline when your one manning trees that cost more than every car you've ever owned combined, and i had a 4hr drive home after that.
Didn't meet Ryan though he did grab a stand from under a tree while i lifted it, he may have smeled my pitts. . . He was way to busy to say hi to. I did however meet and snag some pictures with Walter. He even remembered me and my windswept he tore into me about, i met his apprentice as well. It was really cool.
I have no comments on the judging. As i said earlier Dave's was by far my favorite but i like nick lenzs' style(and i was a kirby salesman for quite some time, i think its cool how a kirby was used because it is one of the only companies in america to have its main manufacturing plant still alive and thriving in Cinncinatie since the 20's, and the jin's totally reflect the cord holders). . . There were 2 really cool vine maple. Some trees that broke the rules, the defoliated beach being one, the thing had barbranches all the way up.
I personnally liked the lighting, 2 lights per display one down, one up.
All in all it was awesome and has definately inspired and motivatd me to continue my pursuit of a career in hort.
 
[QUOTE="But in all seriousness - if bonsai is about distilling the essence of the entire environment into one tree, shouldn't that mean the exhibit would be set up in the "minimalist" wing? Something to ponder...[/QUOTE]

The one thing that did surprise me about the Cup was the traditional row display. In thinking how it tried to brake molds, I think it may have been a good opportunity try something different with the set up and place trees like works of art in a large room but not necessarily in rows (ie. look at what BMW did with displaying Walter Pall's trees). The MoMa I think is a great choice and would be a good place to be experimental in this regard.

It would be interesting to have some sort of digital component with a barcode on the tag and as you scan it with your phone it unlocks some sort of content. Perhaps the history and creation of that particular tree?
 
It would be interesting to have some sort of digital component with a barcode on the tag and as you scan it with your phone it unlocks some sort of content. Perhaps the history and creation of that particular tree?

I agree - and as American Bonsai is a relatively new thing in comparison to Japan, we have a chance to capitalize on the recording of the history of these trees in full HD digital age formats from the moment they're collected/sprouted - preserving the stories from day one. I can't tell you how many times I've marveled at a 100+ year tree but ended up wondering about all it's been through to get to where it is today.

Imagine if there was a scan-able code that could access an app created for the event that would have in depth histories, short interviews with the artists, training photos and progressions of the tree you were looking at. Stuff like that is like crack to people like me who love seeing how a tree transforms from point A to point B - it ends up making me appreciate the art even more to see all that went into the creation I'm currently standing in front of. It's the reason I love watching multi-year progressions on BNut and other sites.
 
I agree - and as American Bonsai is a relatively new thing in comparison to Japan, we have a chance to capitalize on the recording of the history of these trees in full HD digital age formats from the moment they're collected/sprouted - preserving the stories from day one. I can't tell you how many times I've marveled at a 100+ year tree but ended up wondering about all it's been through to get to where it is today.

Imagine if there was a scan-able code that could access an app created for the event that would have in depth histories, short interviews with the artists, training photos and progressions of the tree you were looking at. Stuff like that is like crack to people like me who love seeing how a tree transforms from point A to point B - it ends up making me appreciate the art even more to see all that went into the creation I'm currently standing in front of. It's the reason I love watching multi-year progressions on BNut and other sites.

Also agree here! For me as well it is as much about the "end product" as it is about the process. Sometimes spectacular transformations even from humble begginings.
 
Think of it as a $400k club show. As long as they aren't a 501c non-for-profit organization I see no problem with them overseeing tree selection, lighting, venue, judging, trophies, back-slapping, glad-handing and general profiting.

General question about different bonsai orgs; are any of them non-for-profits or are they mostly private, for-profit entities?
Most bonsai orgs are non-profit. The Artisans cup I'm sure was not.
 
Enough about Ryan, Randy, Chelsea and the lot. Eric Schrader's tree was looking so good it was on fire. Damn it looked good. Well done Eric!
Vin, Thanks very much for the compliment. I had a great time at TAC, not only exhibiting and experiencing the unique display environment but also meeting so many great bonsai people from all over the country.

I attended the panel discussion on Sunday where Ryan and Chelsea talked about their backgrounds, hopes and dreams for the show and future shows. It was quite interesting and I think many people believe that Ryan has broken some ground here. I believe they intend to post recordings of all three panel discussions and audio critiques by the 5 judges of each tree so that others can gain knowledge the way that attendees were able to.

For those interested, I finished a brief post on my blog:

http://www.phutu.com/reflections-on-the-artisans-cup/
 
Vin, Thanks very much for the compliment. I had a great time at TAC, not only exhibiting and experiencing the unique display environment but also meeting so many great bonsai people from all over the country.

I attended the panel discussion on Sunday where Ryan and Chelsea talked about their backgrounds, hopes and dreams for the show and future shows. It was quite interesting and I think many people believe that Ryan has broken some ground here. I believe they intend to post recordings of all three panel discussions and audio critiques by the 5 judges of each tree so that others can gain knowledge the way that attendees were able to.

For those interested, I finished a brief post on my blog:

http://www.phutu.com/reflections-on-the-artisans-cup/
Ahhhhhh, quintessential bonsai at its best. I love it!
 
Eric, I think your tree is very very nice.
Foliage and trunk in perfect balance.
I like how the trunk has not the many many curves junipers often have, my personal taste goes more towards how your tree is, sharp.
It looks like the lighting even enhances the tree so I'm my opinion very successfull.
I wish I could have seen it in person
 
The winning tree looks amazing too. It's one of those trees which a picture will never do it justice. I think you can only really appreciate it if you stand in front of it and look in detail
 
kirby was used because it is one of the only companies in america to have its main manufacturing plant still alive and thriving in Cinncinatie since the 20's, and the jin's totally reflect the cord holders).
I know it s not doesn't really matter but I realized a correction was needed . It's actually Cleveland not Cincinnati. . . .
 
The winning tree looks amazing too. It's one of those trees which a picture will never do it justice. I think you can only really appreciate it if you stand in front of it and look in detail

It's rather punny you say this because the stand is what really stood out on the first place tree, for me. . .
 
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