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Yes, I've heard there is a plan in place. Not sure what it is but have some ideas!
8th U.S. National Bonsai Exhibition, Rochester, NY, USA, September 9-10, 2023
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Yes, I've heard there is a plan in place. Not sure what it is but have some ideas!
Ruddigger
Omono
My friend purchased the album, and only later realized it said “6th annual”.
He emailed and of course, no response. The website is so outdated who knows what its supposed to be.
He emailed and of course, no response. The website is so outdated who knows what its supposed to be.
ABCarve
Masterpiece
I admire your enthusiasm and commitment. There is a midwestern event already, but I’m sure there room for more. Talking people into driving trees across the country for a national takes some gravitas. Good luck!
Orion_metalhead
Masterpiece
Maybe instead of doing a national show once every two years in rochester, there needs to be a national event once a year in different places. The trees will be different and varied, more people can reasonably attend...
Ruddigger
Omono
We kind of have that, with the nationals and pbe trading off years.
Sansokuu
Chumono
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I really like this idea!! It does need a core board and group of national volunteers and local clubs to pull it off. NCECA, the National Council on the Education of Ceramic Arts does this! Every year it is in a different city. They have tours of local art galleries (bonsai yards?), have many workshops, an amazing room of vendors, and fantastic pottery exhibits. Really great model to follow and I highly recommend it. I absolutely love attending the NCECA conventions, having been to the one in Houston and locally in Portland, OR.
The point of the annual show *is* on ceramic Art education, but the event covers the full breadth of functional to artistic ceramics, and by moving it city to city each year it makes the event very accessible to everyone. If there was a bonsai version it could have workshops, demos, the traditional exhibit area, a modern exhibit area, pros representing their bonsai schools, and vendors of all sorts, plus garden crawls of local Japanese gardens and personal collections. It would be amazing!
Orion_metalhead
Masterpiece
Right, but the disconnect is that one is called "The Nationals" and the other isnt. One carries more weight by name, even if quality wise, one is better than the other.
Its like when you tell someone you saw Metallica in 2018 vs someone telling you that you saw the Grindcrusher Tour in 1991. One is more impressive on its face, even if the quality is not there.
Its like when you tell someone you saw Metallica in 2018 vs someone telling you that you saw the Grindcrusher Tour in 1991. One is more impressive on its face, even if the quality is not there.
Scorpius
Chumono
You know, as a vendor you can say no to selling your wares until the public has first crack at it so they're just as guilty. The whole bonsai scene is like fine art all the good stuff ges gobbled up by the rich in the know people while the rest of us get shafted. Oh well.
Shogun610
Masterpiece
*1989 And Justice for All tour ehhhemmmm ..
Orion_metalhead
Masterpiece
If we were talking Master of Puppets or Ride The Lightning when Cliff Burton was still alive, you have an argument... but Napalm Death and Carcass in their prime.... no way!!!
Point is that the Title of a National show, I believe, carries more weight than the title of a Regional Show. I heard people say that the july NJ Bonsai Society show had better trees than MABS... but there is more weight to the MABS title.
I hope to attend in a few years myself either way.
I also agree with Scorpius on the vendor selling... it is up to the seller to fine tune their inventory availability.
bwaynef
Masterpiece
Look at the screenshots i posted on this post:https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/8...ny-usa-september-9-10-2023.58681/post-1071357
I clicked purchase the 2023 album. It took me to another page about the 2023 album. I clicked purchase and it takes me to a page where you can order albums 2-6, but not 8.
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
Shogun610
Masterpiece
jk
shohin_branches
Omono
That's really disappointing to hear.
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
This is what really gets me. Someone buys a tree that was taken care of by someone else, enters it into a show and wins? Same thing happened last year at the Winter Silhouette.
To me it just doesn't make sense.
Now taking care of a tree for years and then entering it into a show and winning is how it should be.....at least for me.
Ruddigger
Omono
I find the joy is in the act of creation, not ownership. So personally, I wouldn't buy a finished tree, or pay someone else to style it.
However, in Japan that is exactly how its done. Professionals are paid to style the trees for the big shows.
Shogun610
Masterpiece
Yeah… I mean I feel like there is layers too , it’s one thing working with the person to style like in class setting and input / opinions on your work bouncing ideas off one on one .. but yeah it’s just a different mind set . Maybe we’re the ones that don’t get it lol
KikurageOtomo
Shohin
Seeing somebody asking a year ago how to prune for refinement, then a year later making nonstop purchases on some of the highest end yamadori that have been styled by top practitioners in the states is certainly makes my eyebrow raise quite a bit. Did Japan not have an era where they depleted vast swathes of aged, high quality yamadori and stones? I can't help but feel like we are creating a sad future for American bonsai when the art form is taking such a consumption based direction. Finding people who are passionate as artists and want to craft bonsai for the future seems to be far more rare than I would've expected. They'd much rather have the instant gratification of putting a few months to a year of work into a tree that already has an identity, claim it as their own and simply maintain it from there.
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