2025 Contest

my recommendation would be to focus less on scores and who wins, and more on the objective to inspire people to try something new (grow from seed) or working a new species / family, as well as a joint activity where we learn from eachother.

The more the focus becomes on scoring and ranking, the less it will be about sharing and developing competences / expertise.
 
Yup, scraped it off after 24 hrs in water. I am still observing them...
Well, crushed both seeds just now.
One is a dud, the other one had this ghostly sprout inside. If it's alive I am definitely entering it. 😏
And that would be a miracle.
20250125_055748.jpg
 
Last edited:
Competition and scoring are fun, but Jelle and Kate are correct. This is more about generating lots of progression threads than it is about winning. Some of the participants are going to have decades more experience than others. They're going to wipe the floor regardless of the way things ares scored.
 
This is great feedback. First, to address the concern about scoring..

Each year will be judged on its own and have it's own ranking, but there will also be a total points leaderboard. I thought I made that clear, but maybe not enough.

Regarding categories. These are not set yet so I am looking for input on the exact criteria. For the first few years, "potential" is a good category. I simply listed some as an example to show scoring, not final categories. Input from the community is key here.

To elaborate on your other concerns, someone who puts a young seedling in a pot at age 2, will never get the trunk thickening of one in ground and so would be judged lower on the trunk but more on display.

This comment: "Some more thoughts of mine would potentially having certain categories for certain groups of trees as declared by the poster for that year's judging. IE Growing, developing, and refinement. This could potentially turn each year's judging round have 3 separate judging criteria and complicate things a bit. The benefit would be that seedlings not be judged as a if it were a bonsai" is an interesting idea. Ill dwell on it. I agree it could complicate things but it could also be a way to standardize the categories.

Finally, I think the scoring is a just a fun competetive side element. Its not the goal per se, but being able to get some quantitative feedback each year on their trees and progress is likely to keep people engaged and interested. Of course the real success will be a lot of progression threads over many years, that track a lot of different development with some objective scoring that supports the best way to develop this material/genus.
 
I also agree with leatherback. The intent of the contest is to grow and share experiences. The points don't matter.

My line of thinking in this was that since a point system was proposed, we should at least do our best to make it as good of a system as we reasonably can

I do like the idea of the subjective scoring system help put numbers to a process as a way to help identify preferred practices as well as showing the entire process of seed to presentable bonsai
 
I ordered some seeds to join in today.

Approximately 50ea of:

Celtis koraiensis
Celtis occidentalis
Celtis Julianae


I don't have many days left for cold stratification, so I'll be trying my hand at some ways to circumvent it on a about half of them. (Scratching the seed/breaking through the outter coat then soaking it in a kelp solution)

I have had some good success on Korean Hornbeam doing that. I have no idea if it was my process or I was just lucky.
 
I looked at Deno's book for tips. (The links in the resources are no longer active, but it's easy to find them with a simple search.) He only mentions one species C. tenuifolia (page 115) - 6mo dry chilling with sowing in late spring. No mention of GA3 helping, and says that cracking a hole in the seed coat had no affect. I will soak them just for the fun of it and see what happens.
 
Back
Top Bottom