Silvester (scott pine) need an advice

[bonsai-max]

Hi there,

it's the end of the winter here and the plants start again.
I have since last summer a new Silvester, the first one ever own, and now the needle are a little bit yellow.
I have also a mugo and a ABP and I have no problem with them.
Is that normal with silvester ? Maybe the pant is weak ?
During this winter the pine is always outside, under the rain, the soil is good with akadama kiriu und pumice and I gave her twice Fosetyl-aluminium as a precaution.
No fertilizer since September, when i take it.
Any idea ?

Thank you so much

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Yellow tips like this are no reason for concern.
They can go yellow for a lot of reasons, too many nutrients, too little nutrients, weak roots, strong roots..
As long as it doesn't expand downwards and the whole needle doesn't go yellow, you're safe.

 

[Adamski77]

I have the same situation with my JBP… many people will say too wet… but one of them born and raised in China only gets really green after long periods of rain… sometimes rains here for a week or longer. I gave up on thinking what’s wrong… that’s the way it is… and I keep going like this is normal. Tree is growing great… just rips are lighter (yellowish) than the rest of it.

 

[R0b]

When was it last repotted? It might be a indication of staying to wet.

 

[bonsai-max]

I have the same situation with my JBP… many people will say too wet… but one of them born and raised in China only gets really green after long periods of rain… sometimes rains here for a week or longer. I gave up on thinking what’s wrong… that’s the way it is… and I keep going like this is normal. Tree is growing great… just rips are lighter (yellowish) than the rest of it.

Hi, yes also here is raining since two weeks, continuously. Probably is this.
Just in case I will give a Folicur SE ( antifungin) as a precaution.

When was it last repotted? It might be a indication of staying to wet.

I have no idea and the previous owner doesn't remember exactly, so probably more than 4 years ago, I will repot in any case in a couple of weeks, when the candles start to grow.

 

[SgtPilko]

Maybe try lower akadama and more kiryu/pumice when you repot? When the time is right get some nice organic fertilizer and some micronutrients on there and see if they green up.

 

[R0b]

1 akadama 1 pumice 1 lava is what we use and even in our wet Dutch winter there haven’t been any yellow tips on mine. It does require watering twice during hot summer days. Usually it is not recommended to fertilise directly after repotting.

 

[bonsai-max]

1 akadama 1 pumice 1 lava is what we use and even in our wet Dutch winter there haven’t been any yellow tips on mine. It does require watering twice during hot summer days. Usually it is not recommended to fertilise directly after repotting.

Hi, normally this is my mix :

30 % Akadama
20 % Lava-granulate 1-4 mm
20 % pumice
30 % Kiryu

Mixed with Ectomycorrhiza

About the fertilizer I use miracle gro since this season.

 

[R0b]

Hi, normally this is my mix :

30 % Akadama
20 % Lava-granulate 1-4 mm
20 % pumice
30 % Kiryu

Mixed with Ectomycorrhiza

About the fertilizer I use miracle gro since this season.

That should be fine, my motto to soil composition is when it works for you don’t change it

 

[minkes]

Doesn’t look scottpinish to me, but anyway - my pine goes every winter from green to yellow / golden color as temperature drops. Maybe it is just case of cold exposure as on mine?

 

[R0b]

Doesn’t look scottpinish to me, but anyway - my pine goes every winter from green to yellow / golden color as temperature drops. Maybe it is just case of cold exposure as on mine?

Could be but if I didn’t repot the tree myself and don’t know the quality of the soil / roots and I see something strange like OP indicated I will repot.

 

[bonsai-max]

Could be but if I didn’t repot the tree myself and don’t know the quality of the soil / roots and I see something strange like OP indicated I will repot.

Ok, the plant is Scott pine 100%, in a couple of weeks I will do the repot and will post the situation, the PO doesn't have any guess....
Another question, stylistic this time, a pine with this style can go into a rectangular pot ?













I ask this because I really don't like this pot and I have a nice rectangular tokoname pot free, it's the same for tall and depth but is of course larger, this one :



Otherwise I will buy a classical round one



Thank you

 

[minkes]

My suggestion is to get branches down, maybe you will need to make wedge cut to do that (i succesfully tried it on my pine), thin out top crown and maybe consider to make it little bit slanted to make it even more interesting.

 

[R0b]

The tokoname looks nice as it is more an elegant tree the rounded corners would be a good match. But tastes differ So whatever you like best.

I would slightly change the potting angle to make it less vertical.

 

[bonsai-max]

The tokoname looks nice as it is more an elegant tree the rounded corners would be a good match. But tastes differ So whatever you like best.

I would slightly change the potting angle to make it less vertical.

Hi, yes the tokoname is really nice, from the picture is not clear but the plant comes versus the observer and I will put on the same angle.




The tokoname was on this ABP since 30 years, but for this one I prefer a round pot, so probably I will do the change.
But I am horrible to choose the right pot for the plant.....

 

[bonsai-max]

My suggestion is to get branches down, maybe you will need to make wedge cut to do that (i succesfully tried it on my pine), thin out top crown and maybe consider to make it little bit slanted to make it even more interesting.

Thank you, I will think about it.

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Doesn’t look scottpinish to me, but anyway - my pine goes every winter from green to yellow / golden color as temperature drops. Maybe it is just case of cold exposure as on mine?

That doesn't look scots pinish to me my friend! It looks rather yellow! Mine stay green throughout the entire winter.
Are you sure it's not too wet? Because I have trees that do this, and they're usually in muddy soil.

 

[TomB]

a pine with this style can go into a rectangular pot ?

Sure. This is a similar one of mine. Round works as well though, either drum or nanban.

 

[bonsai-max]

Sure. This is a similar one of mine. Round works as well though, either drum or nanban.

Wow, that-s a nice combo. It was during an exhibition or you use always grow moss on your tree ?

 

[minkes]

That doesn't look scots pinish to me my friend! It looks rather yellow! Mine stay green throughout the entire winter.
Are you sure it's not too wet? Because I have trees that do this, and they're usually in muddy soil.

Photo of mine should be grafted Pinus mugo “Wintergold“. It is the reason, why it goes so gold every winter. Its color return to green in growing season. My Scotts pines (silvestris) stay green in winter just with little change of color to more yellowish. All my trees are potted in free draining soil (zeolite / perlite), so there is no possibility of getting them too wet.