X years of monitoring/comparing fruiting tree cuttings?

[HorseloverFat]

As it is just about “hardwood cutting time” in my neck of the woods.... I was “kicking around” the idea of a group of people, taking a certain number of fruiting tree cuttings, and observing them over the course of a handful of years.. (Contest style)

This idea will be refined, structured and organized more formally IF there is interest...

So just lemme know.. *finger guns*

(I will be doing it anyways.. sooo)

 

[HorseloverFat]

One definite prerequisite would be that the cuttings would have to be deciduous species...

I’m taking cuttings from a black ice plum, and a (Currently) unknown crab growing in my parents yard... I’m also taking a lot of apple cuttings that we’ve found in the woods.

 

[Kanorin]

Is the strike rate quite good for hardwood cuttings of fruit trees? I need some education on this.

 

[BobbyLane]

is this with a view to creating bonsai or just for horticulture purposes?
it seems that some are doing bonsai while many are just doing horticulture

the horticulture and lack of bonsai seems to be becoming more prevalent.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Is the strike rate quite good for hardwood cuttings of fruit trees? I need some education on this.

I’ve struck apple and plum hardwoods with 40ish percent.. but THEN didn’t have the light to keep them alive... I am more prepared this year.

 

[HorseloverFat]

is this with a view to creating bonsai or just for horticulture purposes?
it seems that some are doing bonsai while many are just doing horticulture

the horticulture and lack of bonsai seems to be becoming more prevalent.

Attractive, fruiting trees, grown and trained with “bonsai technique” in attempt to create a miniaturized version of a larger, older, interesting fruit tree..with artistic lee-way...

I guess is the goal...

 

[BobbyLane]

Attractive, fruiting trees, grown and trained with “bonsai technique” in attempt to create a miniaturized version of a larger, older, interesting fruit tree..with artistic lee-way...

I guess is the goal...

oh i see. its just that in the opening post i didnt see the words progression or bonsai being used. just that the plan was to 'observe' cuttings development over a number of years hehe
maybe you need to set a time frame then, how long before these cuttings will be developed into bonsai.... ' miniaturized version of a larger, older'

5-10 years maybe?

 

[leatherback]

oh i see. its just that in the opening post i didnt see the words progression or bonsai being used. just that the plan was to 'observe' cuttings development over a number of years hehe
maybe you need to set a time frame then, how long before these cuttings will be developed into bonsai.... ' miniaturized version of a larger, older' 5-10 years maybe?

Still.
The challenge focusses on taking cuttings. As I am a little beyond that stage I have better tings to do.

 

[HorseloverFat]

oh i see. its just that in the opening post i didnt see the words progression or bonsai being used. just that the plan was to 'observe' cuttings development over a number of years hehe
maybe you need to set a time frame then, how long before these cuttings will be developed into bonsai.... ' miniaturized version of a larger, older'

5-10 years maybe?

Yes! Most definitely closer to that ten year mark.

I kind of left the conversation open and vague.. sorry about that.

 

[BobbyLane]

Still.
The challenge focusses on taking cuttings. As I am a little beyond that stage I have better tings to do.

dont get me wrong, if the chap wants to observe cuttings for a few years its all cool, buts as its a bonsai forum im expecting to see the cuttings developed for or into bonsai. i dont wish to view ones horticultural prowess at growing cuttings with no desire to carry them on to the bonsai stage.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Still.
The challenge focusses on taking cuttings. As I am a little beyond that stage I have better tings to do.

Understandable.

I am still creating my collections and projects “portfolio”.. I still have more space and time that I can comfortably give.

I’ve just been at this a little over a year... I’m still “burning off that energy”

 

[HorseloverFat]

dont get me wrong, if the chap wants to observe cuttings for a few years its all cool, buts as its a bonsai forum im expecting to see the cuttings developed for or into bonsai. i dont wish to view ones horticultural prowess at growing cuttings with no desire to carry them on to the bonsai stage.

dont get me wrong, if the chap wants to observe cuttings for a few years its all cool, buts as its a bonsai forum im expecting to see the cuttings developed for or into bonsai. i dont wish to view ones horticultural prowess at growing cuttings with no desire to carry them on to the bonsai stage.

Most definitely the “end game” idea is “bonsai” in aesthetic attempt and presentation.

 

[leatherback]

Is the strike rate quite good for hardwood cuttings of fruit trees? I need some education on this.

Varies a lot. Crabbies do well. Cherries less so.

 

[Kanorin]

I see this effort having more success as a data collection project towards assembling a resource/guide on "how to turn hardwood cuttings of X genus into bonsai in 10 years" type of thing. I don't think there is much appetite for it as a contest.

BUT I'd definitely be interested in a "Turn seedlings or cuttings into a forest planting in X years contest"

 

[HorseloverFat]

I see this effort having more success as a data collection project towards assembling a resource/guide on "how to turn hardwood cuttings of X genus into bonsai in 10 years" type of thing. I don't think there is much appetite for it as a contest.

BUT I'd definitely be interested in a "Turn seedlings or cuttings into a forest planting in X years contest"

That makes perfect sense, and I agree.