Would love some advice...

[WSting]

FWIW, my local bonsai shop *strongly* advised against keeping my juniper outside during the summer; with the temperatures regularly reaching 100 F, very low humidity, and 5,000 ft in elevation, they said that few bonsai junipers would survive the UV burn and other conditions. Therefore, my nana has come back inside to my new setup in my home office. We'll see how things play out.

WSting

 

[aml1014]

FWIW, my local bonsai shop *strongly* advised against keeping my juniper outside during the summer; with the temperatures regularly reaching 100 F, very low humidity, and 5,000 ft in elevation, they said that few bonsai junipers would survive the UV burn and other conditions. Therefore, my nana has come back inside to my new setup in my home office. We'll see how things play out.

WSting

I live in new Mexico where we reach 100°f+ Temps and uv is at 10-12 daily in summer (on a scale from 0-12) junipers can take full sun and high Temps no problem! Just jeep them watered, they have no clue what they are talking about!

Aaron

 

[WSting]

I live in new Mexico where we reach 100°f+ Temps and uv is at 10-12 daily in summer (on a scale from 0-12) junipers can take full sun and high Temps no problem! Just jeep them watered, they have no clue what they are talking about!

Aaron

I certainly appreciate the insight, I'll continue to gleen what I can from everyone in the hobby. Aaron, you certainly have the same high-mountain climate over there in NM.

 

[sorce]

I failed

No...you didn't!

Sorce

 

[sorce]

We'll see how things play out.

When my kids pick up the toads we find....
They play dead...

So do possums, and hognose snakes.....

I reckon your tree is gonna make like one of those critters....

Cept fer it won't be "playing".

Junipers are more or less designed to take the hottest sun.

Just touch the foliage.

Sho ain't no maple!

Sorce

 

[MichaelS]

If I didn't cover all my trees - including pines and junipers - with 50% shade cloth in summer they would all fry. It just takes one day of 40 degrees C (104F) and low humidity, bye bye. Shading trees in summer here is essential!

 

[Mike MoMo]

I don't mean to sound insensitive but I am glad I don't have those problems. I would suggest getting a native species. But regardless We All Kill Trees, the Learning Curve Sucks but It's Fair!

 

[rockm]

FWIW, my local bonsai shop *strongly* advised against keeping my juniper outside during the summer; with the temperatures regularly reaching 100 F, very low humidity, and 5,000 ft in elevation, they said that few bonsai junipers would survive the UV burn and other conditions. Therefore, my nana has come back inside to my new setup in my home office. We'll see how things play out.

WSting

good lord. SMFH...STOP GOING to this "bonsai shop." They have absolutely no idea WTF they're talking about. Anyone who advises keeping a juniper indoors is advising you to kill your tree (possibly so you'll have to buy a new one?) Irresponsible, stupid advice is given by "shops" and roadside sellers all the time. They do not grow bonsai. They sell them. Ask the "shop" how many trees they've kept for more than a year. Ask them if they have trees at home. Ask to see those trees. I have a feeling you will get wishy washy answers. Typical bonsai shops buy their trees wholesale from sellers (some wholesale suppliers are in places like Israel and China) and make their living selling in volume to beginners.

Junipers are quite able to withstand the conditions you're describing. If you're concerned about intense afternoon sun, provide some shade in the afternoon. Humidity inside a house with forced air conditioning (which has a dehumidifier) is not any better than outdoors, plus you've cut sun exposure by as much as 95 percent--even if you've got the tree next to a window.

Good luck with your juniper. You're going to need it.

 

[sorce]

SMFH

Stupid mother Fing horse?

Also note....these trees are in pots...

I suspect @MichaelS can't water all day due to work?
If he could, he may not need to shade the Junipers.

Every situation call for different "in pot" remedies, but inside, is not one!

However, your other trees will look a lot better next to a dead juniper!

Sorce

 

[Craigm]

I suspect @MichaelS can't water all day due to work?
If he could, he may not need to shade the Junipers.

If he is like me it's more to do with extended Hot spells with very little humidity and no relief overnights. Sometimes a little shade can do wonders, although mine stay in full sun generally

 

[rockm]

Yes, it gets hot in the summer in Utah. It gets hot in the summer in Va. It gets very hot in a lot of places in the U.S. in the summer, especially out west.

However, if you ask anyone who has been doing bonsai out there for more than a couple of years if they're keeping their trees inside their houses for the summer, I have a feeling you'll get silence and an "uh, no, why would I do that?" look.

Temperate zone trees die indoors. Plain-as-that. Junipers die rather quickly. Most beginners don't know their juniper has expired because they rarely show stress up until they pass on.

 

[aml1014]

My junipers get 50% shade cloth from about 2pm until sun down. Only reason for this is I can't water 4 times a day realistically, I already spend 9 hours a day watering between home and the nursery. At my work, all the junipers get full sun all day everyday no matter what or they start to have foliage die off.

Just one more note, there's 2 trees actually native to the valley of Albuquerque, cottonwood and elms became invasive but the only true native are juniperus monosperma (one seed juniper) and the Quercus turbinella ( shrub live oak) many others are native to NM but are at different elevations with different moisture. We average about 10" a year here of moisture on a good year. Yet somehow those junipers can live hundreds and hundreds of years.

They can take full sun and VERY VERY high Temps as long as your willing to water enough!

Aaron

 

[rockm]

Stupid mother Fing horse?

Also note....these trees are in pots...

I suspect @MichaelS can't water all day due to work?
If he could, he may not need to shade the Junipers.

Every situation call for different "in pot" remedies, but inside, is not one!

However, your other trees will look a lot better next to a dead juniper!

Sorce

SMFH--Shaking my Effing Head...

 

[Adair M]

There are some things you can do if the problem is soil drying out:

1). Put a layer of spaghnum moss on top of the soil.

2). Put old cotton towels on top of the soil

3 put shade cloth that allows water in, on top of the soil.

4. Put in a drip irrigation system on timers to provide water when you're not there.

5 put aluminum foil reflectors on the sides of the pot to keep the pots cooler.



None of the above deprive the tree from sunlight.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

We'll see how things play out.

We already know. Most people have to learn this lesson for themselves; I get it.
Always best to grow what grows well in your area: collect a Utah Juniper next spring. You'll find them outside.

 

[LanceMac10]

SMFH--Shaking my Effing Head...

Thanks!! All these abbreviations confuse the hell out of me! Look folks, twelve years of school, all that time in class.....write the damn words! You only cheapen all that work.......