Witch Tree needs a slab--so I make one

Ahh, soils. First off, I live in a pretty small microcosm and have no interest in promoting any techniques. I have not been trained on this--its not hard. I only grow what I grow--and as far as slabs that is pretty much larch and white cedars, which are not picky about life on a slab. Forests grown on slabs are a lot of work to be kept nice--so beware. Here is my take on slab growing trees.
*I assemble trees I assume are not going to need to grow much--or if they do need any development it would be fine.
*I always grow them first in a shallow box or on plywood and achieve a dense, solid, thin mat of roots.This is the most important. Don't unnecessarily tear it apart.
* I use unremarkable, old fashion, fine (retained on 1/16"+ screen) with some fine/med (retained on 1/8" screen) piled here and there, durable soil with about 25%(or more) organic (pre-moistened, sometime inoculated with myco and a wetter ) usually graded decomposing bark nodules. The aggregate portion is a blend of mostly Turface or whatever, sometimes with Perlite or small amounts of small lava, pumice or Haydite or granite (I mostly quit using granite for anything). The majority of the added soil is just tucking soil--the root mat itself contains most of the soil so be sure it is a quality finer soil.
* Everything is mossed and I maintain this--important.
* Thin the moss if it gets over dense.
*Sometimes moss declines seasonally or otherwise--don't freak--be patient--wait--add moss if necessary.
*Try to keep moss off the trunks.
*Keep the root pad thin.
*Sometimes I get by by tying things down over and around the slab.
*Sometimes I use chunks of wire to space and hold trees.
*Sometimes I add tie downs when I am planting--if i do I try to epoxy in small hoops of ss wire then add a tie down wire.
*Fertilize very little and usually only later in the season--if you fert a lot then you have to do root work a lot which is a mega-pain and unnecessary and defeats the whole mode.
*RP (major lifting, root thinning and soiling) every 10 years or so, or never--in the interim, infrequently cut holes or sections of the mat out and refresh the soil.
*Much ado is made about retainer wall construction--really its no big deal--I have made stick clay much using pottery clay or Betonite clay or mud and adding long fiber sphagnum or hair or whatever. Use some used fine soil stolen from another tree--I always do this to some extent. Or chunks or strips of cut-off root mat with mud smeared on them--then moss, moss, moss--and fix the moss. Then keep damp.
*Drainage is not important unless there is a huge dip in the slab--even then the established plants drink it up. Healthy trees can be and are cultivated on shallow non draining slabs.
* Keep moist always--water differently--protect from afternoon sun.(my slab plantings are always moist under the moss) if in doubt, water.
*Little slabs work way different and drying can be a big deal.
*Good water quality is important with long term plantings.
 
Sounds like moist is a big component of successful slab plantings. Thanks!
 
*Much ado is made about retainer wall construction--really its no big deal--I have made stick clay much using pottery clay or Betonite clay or mud and adding long fiber sphagnum or hair or whatever. Use some used fine soil stolen from another tree--I always do this to some extent. Or chunks or strips of cut-off root mat with mud smeared on them--then moss, moss, moss--and fix the moss. Then keep damp.

Would love to see this made with pictures... If you'll do this in spring, please, please, take as much photos as you can :)
Very interested on how exactly this is made.
 
You find these is swampland or more on dry ground.
I ask because I see more beat up and bent ones on higher ground. I found a few in a quarry that were growing low to the ground. And almost all of the cedars that grow in swamps here grow fairly straight and fast because if they don't the deer eat them.
Never swamps--moist dry ground--on and in rocks--sometimes smashed by shore ice--and wind. In your neck of the woods scout the big-lake shores owned by the fantastically rich--but at night. Check near their exclusive rich-o private boat landings you will find gnarled white cedars beat down and trained from generations of being carelessly trod upon by Sperry Top-sider Tritone leather boat shoe wearing corporation owners. Pry these up and post a bill for shore weed management--if you don't their gardeners will round them up and let them wash into the lake--with everything else.
 
Very nice! I've done slab plantings but never thought of a foot to raise the slab. That's a good touch.
 
Thanks for providing lots of useful and helpful detail. The entire slab process was very interesting to me....from construction, to walls and to soil.

The walls were of particular interest to me. Your description was full of numerous options that I can visualize working well....and composed of materials readily available. The concept of using cut off strips of root was something new to me and I can see that working very well.

The watering, and also the future root pruning, were also two subjects you covered and described. Your story detailed enough about what you do that is successful for your work! I can take that information over to my climate.

Thanks. Excellent how-to story well done!

I look forward to more photos that complete the process and showcase the end result.
 
Very nice! I've done slab plantings but never thought of a foot to raise the slab. That's a good touch.
Actually it strengthens the slab remarkably
 
Actually it strengthens the slab remarkably
That's good information to know. I can see how it strengths the slab....and it looks good too. Nice finishing touch!
 
Never swamps--moist dry ground--on and in rocks--sometimes smashed by shore ice--and wind. In your neck of the woods scout the big-lake shores owned by the fantastically rich--but at night. Check near their exclusive rich-o private boat landings you will find gnarled white cedars beat down and trained from generations of being carelessly trod upon by Sperry Top-sider Tritone leather boat shoe wearing corporation owners. Pry these up and post a bill for shore weed management--if you don't their gardeners will round them up and let them wash into the lake--with everything else.

Excellent and FUNNY way to avoid some collecting problems.:p
 
Like others, I'd like to thank you Crust for providing us this great post (we're glad it's cold/snowy and you have the time).....the tree itself is really a "one of a kind" and combined with the slab it will be stunning I'm sure.........nice looking shop you've got there too.....green with envy.
Cheers Graham
 
I was at the depot yeterday.....
Looking for bluestone.....

I chuckle....

On bread, the dogs eye, my ass, I will never look at Crust the same......

Ain't Saying it.....
Lovin it!

Sorce
 
Amen....

Bump....

I think about this thread every time I think about slabs, and cutting some stones in my yard.

Sorce
 
@sorce This is why the witch tree looked familiar to me...
I'm getting older every day.... I didn't remember that discussion...
Thank you one more time.
 
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