Njyamadori
Chumono
Hey beginner here ! I need to get copper wire but I don’t know what is a nice basic size for bonsai around 1 foot . What size should I get ?
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If you look closely, you're actually buying aluminum wire there. It's a good place to start, though, even if you're using it on conifers. Copper wire is much more expensive, unfortunately.
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
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@Njyamadori like I already mentioned to you. Get yourself some books and read them. You will get a better understanding about bonsai with the books. You can check them out at your library for free.
- The bonsai wire set made of high quality aluminium alloy with oxidise treated,not easy to rust, reusable and environment-friendly.
@Njyamadori like I already mentioned to you. Get yourself some books and read them. You will get a better understanding about bonsai with the books. You can check them out at your library for free.
Forsoothe!
Imperial Masterpiece
When you see the price of copper verses aluminum, you'll decide that aluminum is just fine. And, it's easier to use and wiring is a skill that takes time to learn. No copper for now. Aluminum 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm 3.5mm
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Don't buy, find.
Sorce
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Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
You can find a lot of good usable scrap at construction site dumpsters.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Dude should part time as a laborer to find wire and trees, and materials for planters. Etc etc.
Go work!
Sorce
Colorado
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@Njyamadori Here is an actual answer to your question: you need a range of sizes of wire in order to properly wire different sizes of trunks and branches.
Here’s what I use as far as aluminum, which I do agree you should start with even for conifers: https://www.superflybonsai.com/coll...minum-bonsai-training-wire-set-of-8-sizes-kit
You do not need to go dumpster diving for bonsai wire! That is just crazy
Here’s what I use as far as aluminum, which I do agree you should start with even for conifers: https://www.superflybonsai.com/coll...minum-bonsai-training-wire-set-of-8-sizes-kit
You do not need to go dumpster diving for bonsai wire! That is just crazy
Forsoothe!
Imperial Masterpiece
Also, copper is used by upper class artists on finer trees, many of which are Pines. Pines just happen to have a great deal of flexibility and bare internodes unlike smaller deciduous trees with little knuckle room.
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
Also to add to the fact that wire will usually be removed in a couple of months on deciduous trees verse evergreens can stay on 1yr+........cutting copper wire off for just a couple months usage can really get expensive.
I'm guessing you never bought a Cracker jack's box and got the excitement of opening the box to just get that toy inside when you was a kid........well just think of the dumpster as a bigger box........but filled with a ton of goodies. Try it you might get hooked!You do not need to go dumpster diving for bonsai wire! That is just crazy
............BTW no one told him to go dumpster diving, everyone is telling him to go get aluminum wire.
Go look at Julian Adams website: www.adamsbonsai.com. There he offers a starter set of copper wire. It has a little bit of all the appropriate sizes.
Generally speaking, aluminum is better for deciduous trees than conifers. Yes, copper is more expensive, but it works better. When deciduous trees are wired, the wire should be removed soon, in a month or two. On conifers, it stays on longer, a year or two. So, even though it IS more expensive, it works better and is more attractive on conifers.
Generally speaking, aluminum is better for deciduous trees than conifers. Yes, copper is more expensive, but it works better. When deciduous trees are wired, the wire should be removed soon, in a month or two. On conifers, it stays on longer, a year or two. So, even though it IS more expensive, it works better and is more attractive on conifers.
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
For my first several batches of wire, I utilized my “abandoned building scrapping” toolset.. and still have/use quite a but of thicker gauge wire I have pulled (legally) from a couple future “demo sites”... I actually just had to purchase the SMALLER gauges.
I also use strategic zip-ties, and well planned “sun reach” bendin’... so no real shame.
I also use strategic zip-ties, and well planned “sun reach” bendin’... so no real shame.
“Upper class”???
Look, wire is a tool. A tool we use to style trees. There’s no “class” involved.
Just as some paintings are done using water colors, some use oil, and some use acrylic. Each has its place.
His explanation of choosing wire size is ok for choosing aluminum. But doesn’t work for copper (even though he says it does). That’s because copper work hardens as you bend it. So, applying the wire in a spiral makes it stiffer. Then, after it’s on the branch, it has more holding power than it did while still in the coil.This is quite a nice video explaining one method of how to select wire thickness. (massive tree in his demo!)
There is also quite a bit info here
Wiring
Wiring of bonsai: Tutorial + Examples + Error Prevention. Comparison Aluminum Copper - Read herewww.bonsai-shop.com
Indeed, my bad I thought the original poster would be using aluminum.
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
lol that explains why it doesnt look like its anneled
Njyamadori
Chumono
Thanks so much yours is very helpful but also I’m looking for copper wire ! The stuff you showed me is also what I need for other bonsai. Thanks so much !@Njyamadori Here is an actual answer to your question: you need a range of sizes of wire in order to properly wire different sizes of trunks and branches.
Here’s what I use as far as aluminum, which I do agree you should start with even for conifers: https://www.superflybonsai.com/coll...minum-bonsai-training-wire-set-of-8-sizes-kit
You do not need to go dumpster diving for bonsai wire! That is just crazy
Njyamadori
Chumono
Thanks so much because almost everyone said to use aluminum but for conifers I’m reading that copper is way much better and also I’m just making like 5 max conifers because I love maples and other flowering trees better . So I really don’t care to spend $25 on wire
