What this years bonsai money bought this year.

Glen Y said:
I have had cc permit for over 50 years. My wife has had one for 25 years. As AmerIcan Express says, “Dont leave home without it!”. i carry a glock 19, my wife‘s is a Taurus Pt111. For at home we have A pair of Colt .45‘s.

We go to the range at least once a week (btw she is more accurate but I’m faster).
Never had to draw (much less use) but never know. Better safe than sorry.
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I do concealed with the Glock 17.
Kind of large but then again so am I.
The cpl still wont let me carry the AR under my trench coat though.
 
Good for you, stay safe brother.

I have a Glock and Ar-15 as well (have had for a few years) So I am ready.

But out here where I live (just south of SF) you wont see a single Trump anything anywhere so I am not too worried, as he is roundly despised around these parts.

Just live with the solace that when he loses, he will be taken through the ringer for all the treason that he and his administration have committed.
 
M. Frary said:
Yep.
There's rumblings around here about what's likely to happen when trump loses election.
We've already seen some of his supporters hatch a plot to kidnap our governor and kill her and storm the state Capitol building.
I live where these weirdos live.
I got them before that happened.
And when my State Trooper son in law says it might be a good idea to get a gun I took heed.
And as you can see I went whole hog.
Fight fire with fire.
I pray to God that nothing happens but like my wife told me when I balked it's best to have it and not need it than need and not have it.
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I never thought I would feel the way you do...but I do. I’m not opposed to weapons, I’m an owner and supporter but never thought there’d be a reason to own one other that recreational shooting....I hope I never have to look down the sights to take another persons life.
 
If I understand good, we shall worrie if trump loose in November?

I really hope he will pass because I have seen from France lot of benefit for your country.

We got lot of "weirdos" too in France, covid-19, economic crisis might bring more crisis.
Really not positive about futur
 
NorwaySpruce said:
If I understand good, we shall worrie if trump loose in November?
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Yup. These statements, and the ability to divide society may well trigger riots or worse in the evening of the elections.:

thehill.com

Trump: ‘The only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged’

President Trump on Monday further cast doubt on the U.S. election process, claiming falsely that the only way he would lose in November is if the election is “rigged.”Trump made the remark at the e…
thehill.com thehill.com
 
M. Frary said:
Yep.
There's rumblings around here about what's likely to happen when trump loses election.
We've already seen some of his supporters hatch a plot to kidnap our governor and kill her and storm the state Capitol building.
I live where these weirdos live.
I got them before that happened.
And when my State Trooper son in law says it might be a good idea to get a gun I took heed.
And as you can see I went whole hog.
Fight fire with fire.
I pray to God that nothing happens but like my wife told me when I balked it's best to have it and not need it than need and not have it.
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That is terrifying!!
 
Hang in there Mike
It’s beautiful country up there, and I miss it sometimes (this time of year and in may mostly) , but some of the same crazy’s as further south.
hopefully this will all be over soon and can just be a sad and embarrassing chapter in the history books.
 
I would love to see in my lifetime some kind of great awakening in the US, and everyone realizing life is better without the guns. I understand where you are coming from Mike, and hope this November things turn out positive.
 
To NOT arm one’s self (at least where I live) seems like lunacy. It’s necessary... but, GOD, I wish it wasn’t :(.
I almost bought that Glock actually (not literal, but same model)
I ended up going with the Taurus instead...

NICE AR! What’s the make on that fella? My phone is quite aweful for zooming in photos.
 
My biggest fear around firearms is "Overpenetration". All these high caliper weapons, if you ever fire a shot, not on the firing range, the bullet can go through your target, the siding of the house across the street, the neighbor in the house and finally come to a stop in the engine block of a car a quarter mile away. For this reason a shotgun is better for home defense, use goose shot. It won't go through 2 layers of drywall, but will make a hell of a mess of the "problem" in front of you. I carry a 380, small enough to fit in my pocket, will certainly make the "problem" in front of me go "oof", but won't kill the innocent person behind the "problem" in front of me. And in close quarters, a 380 doesn't need a lot of room for you to maneuver to aim. Not too accurate for long distance, but then if there is long distance, is there really a need to shoot?

A former friend of mine, a bit of a drunk, was drinking one evening, playing with a cheap, 25 caliper pistol, a "saturday night special". He shot himself in the knee, the bullet went through his knee, through his front door, and through the aluminium siding of the mobile home parked next door. Then he has the "nerve" to call me for a ride to the emergency room, as he didn't want the police at his trailer. Hallmark does not make a card for "Congratulations on your Self Inflicted Gunshot Wound". This was the third time this clown accidentally shot himself. The first two injuries were with air powered pellet guns. Some people shouldn't own guns. Oh, and fortunately the neighbor wasn't home at the time. Needless to say, that was one friendship that did NOT last the test of time.

Point being, a "little" 25 caliper went through a human, a door and through aluminum siding, imagine how far through the trailer park a 9mm or 10 mm slug would have traveled? Luckily only the clown owning the gun was injured in this incident. I don't think enough people think about where the bullet will stop afterwards, if it misses your target, or if it goes through your target.
 
There are a lot of wannabe soldiers out there who have never served, never had to cary a weapon day-in and day-out, never felt the fear or regrets that go with having these weapons used against them or having to use them themselves .... yet they fantasize and dream about it and play soldier and arm themselves up so they can try to make themselves feel powerful or important.
I don’t understand.
I’m pretty sure these are the people M. Fray is worried about. Having spent a lot of time in that area I may have even known some of them.
In my opinion they are cowards, but there seem to be a lot of people who believe they have a “god given right” to ignorantly endanger innocent people with their military style weapons. Why any god would want people to use automatic weapons against other people is beyond my comprehension.
Sorry for the rant but I really do not understand the desire to have and use offensive weapons.
Defense is fine, but like Leo said, a shotgun or a .38 is much more useful and appropriate without ignorantly endangering innocents.
 
I'm happy to see we can talk about serious subject here.
In a French forum they will never allow anything like this.

I was kicked from a forum because I say lockdown is not a normal way society work !!!

I'm pretty sure if Biden pass, you will get the vice president in fact, and lot of people in europe pray for trump win because we know he was a peaceful president and care for his citizen.

Media are telling lot of lies or only keep the worst from him . May you'll be afraid by our new in Europe !

I'm really scare that we will always need masks all our life now, and never returned to our normal lives like less a year ago ...

And actually scare to see some countries asking for PCR if you want travel there.
Really sad about what is the airlines industry now.

Some young people has paid around 100K€ for become an airline pilot 2 years ago and now their dreams are destroy. Worst : they have a credit to return for almost all their life.

I was in the way to begin a cabin crew training, luckily I don't loose money but I'm really worried for what all this workforce will become.

The actual situation is an awakening nightmare.
I want to breath normally at least ....
 
Crawforde said:
There are a lot of wannabe soldiers out there who have never served, never had to cary a weapon day-in and day-out, never felt the fear or regrets that go with having these weapons used against them or having to use them themselves .... yet they fantasize and dream about it and play soldier and arm themselves up so they can try to make themselves feel powerful or important.
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That would be me. I never held a firearm in my life, but as a kid I always loved the idea of owning one and using it on a range, maybe even hunting.
I come from a sketchy hood, there were actual shootouts during my childhood but that didn't scare me.
Then at age 15, someone called a swat team on me and some friends and we were arrested at gunpoint. 4 barrels per person aimed at our heads, officers trembling from the adrenaline..
The idea of owning a gun kind of diminished. Also, I'm stupid enough to end up like the guy in Leo's story.

However, ever since a dude was decapitated in my village a couple months ago, I am considering getting a license. My province is the North Mexico of European synthetic drug production and a couple down the street was robbed at gunpoint by some refugees. Since gun ownership is such an issue here, and it takes 5 years or so to get a license, I am starting to consider starting that process. Then again, I'm not the kind of person that would be a good gun owner.
 
Maybe but I’d think you have a leg up on many.
At least you are thoughtful about it, and know the dangers of fear and adrenaline.
 
I was raised, military.. USMC soldiers were literally ALL of my immediate and extended family, both genders.. most of them served in combat/wartime operations..

I was taught a HEALTHY respect/knowledge of weapons.. quite early, and was out in “the bush” hunting ducks by 8 or 9, everything else by 12.
This is NOT how I am raising my kids.. HUNTING FOR SPORT DOESN’T EXIST!... (in my opinion)... that’s the exact same thing as saying “killing competitively for fun”.. this I do not agree with, so my children will be raised accordingly..

I am VERY much into “survivalist” measures.. even of the most extreme...Dad would have us do “outdoor weeks” in summer, sometimes solo... and I’ve (almost) ALWAYS found “foraging and fishing” MORE than enough. (I do understand winter would bring NEW challenges)

Security/protection is a WHOLE other monster.... especially when you have children. I wouldn’t hesitate...
 
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