Thetradingtree
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Reflection in pottery?Took this pic
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Sunset through the iceReflection in pottery?
I’ve been there!
These are from water reflections..and land together
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Spent probably an hour unpacking my new bonsai tools that came in the mail today. I had made this purchase from American Bonsai a few weeks ago. The set came with waaaaaay more stuff than they show on the site to boot...I'll have to write up a full review on the Patriot set, but I really do love their tool designs. I also opted to have my initials engraved on both sides so they are easy to ID at club meetings etc. Not pictured are all the extra tidbits, of which there are a lot. Didn't expect there to be a really nice set of carving tools in the box.View attachment 576237View attachment 576238
I got tired of the bad tempering in my carbon steel tools, snapped the tip on 2 cutters on branches that shouldn't have. The inside of the snapped tips both had oxidation, so the steel had to have fractures from tempering I figure. Plus the cutting edges don't meet on American bonsai's mid to large cutters, so they don't dull nearly as fast from steel on steel. They bevel one edge so they don't actually meet directly like every other cutter I have owned.Okay, I had to....
$3295 / 80 tools (did I count correctly?) = $41.1875 per tool.
Given the single item price of some of their tools, that doesn't seem too bad.
Check the sharpness on material that you won't be keeping. Both my rounded concave cutters (11 and Standard Series) arrived not properly sharpen, crushing the tissue instead of a nice cut. I used my DMT honing cone. It took quite a few passes but I was able to get a decent cut from them.I got tired of the bad tempering in my carbon steel tools, snapped the tip on 2 cutters on branches that shouldn't have. The inside of the snapped tips both had oxidation, so the steel had to have fractures from tempering I figure. Plus the cutting edges don't meet on American bonsai's mid to large cutters, so they don't dull nearly as fast from steel on steel. They bevel one edge so they don't actually meet directly like every other cutter I have owned.
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what even happened here...I got sent a project to rescue. A very talented local artist sold it and it went from this to this…
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At least it’s still alive.
I'm OCD about my edges so sharpness isn't the issue with them breaking, till a tool fails you cant really see a flaw in the tempering. You can usually shave with my bonsai tools. I've been a barber since 1999, and used to restore vintage straight razors as a hobby. I have way nicer hones than I ever required, including Japanese natural stones which cost far more than I'd ever admit. The harder stones work best on tools I find. Softer stones work great for razors that lie flat on the hone, but I find tools and knives are more likely dig into the stone and eventually lead to dishing of the hone. Vintage man-made "barber" hones honestly are great for touching up tools and razors as well and are reasonably easy to find, just make sure they have nice surfaces, many of them are pitted, they were designed for maintaining an edge on a razor. The key to sharp tools is to never let it get dull. With razors first a linen strop is used, then leather a strop is used to polish the razor bevel. Tools are quite similar honestly, especially carving tools as most wood carvers seek the same hones us barbers/straight razor users do. High carbon steel is much easier to maintain due to being a much softer steel that has flexibility but at the cost of corrosion resistance. Stainless steel is far less soft and much harder to sharpen, and if you've used many stainless kitchen knives, you've probably chipped the bevel on a knife before. Not sure if there is an in depth thread on sharpening bonsai tools, but I might make a video sometime with microscope shots of the edge etc, which really shows what goes on during the sharpening and edge refinement process.Check the sharpness on material that you won't be keeping. Both my rounded concave cutters (11 and Standard Series) arrived not properly sharpen, crushing the tissue instead of a nice cut. I used my DMT honing cone. It took quite a few passes but I was able to get a decent cut from them.
Be hopeful. You might be pleasantly surprised come spring. Would like to know if they do.Happy Belated Birthday! I potted up the Arbor Day Foundation sticks. Not feeling terribly optimistic about their survival. View attachment 575758
I'm not a barber, but I have a few Japanese knives that I sharpen myself, and you could shave with them as well. I have several Japanese stones, not natural stones as I find them overkill for what I do. My Suehiro 1000/3000 combo and Suehiro Rika 5000 take care of most my sharpening. But I would never use them to sharpen any of me cutters, shears are fine with it, I have sharpened my wife's Hattori Hanzo shears, yes, she's a stylist and licensed barber LOL.but I find tools and knives are more likely dig into the stone and eventually lead to dishing of the hone.
All my Kaneshin tools are the same, the edges don't meet.Anyways, here's how they designed the bevel on their bigger tools, edge against edge during cutting really murders an edge.
Yeah, I figured they'd need sharpened out of the box, most new cutting tools I buy go to the hones just to make sure they do what i need them to. Plus I rather enjoy sharpening.I'm not a barber, but I have a few Japanese knives that I sharpen myself, and you could shave with them as well. I have several Japanese stones, not natural stones as I find them overkill for what I do. My Suehiro 1000/3000 combo and Suehiro Rika 5000 take care of most my sharpening. But I would never use them to sharpen any of me cutters, shears are fine with it, I have sharpened my wife's Hattori Hanzo shears, yes, she's a stylist and licensed barber LOL.
Now the cone is awesome for the rounded edge tools.
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All my Kaneshin tools are the same, the edges don't meet.
Here is an example of the cut I was getting with the AB cutters out of the box. Crushed tissue, not good for healing at all. And this is on a ficus, that the wood is soft, can't imagine the damage on a maple.
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My Kaneshin, nice cut.
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Once I sharpened and true the edge of the AB they cut as well as the Kaneshin.
That's how the cutters are supposed to be. All of mine are like that and I have a mix of manufacturers.I got tired of the bad tempering in my carbon steel tools, snapped the tip on 2 cutters on branches that shouldn't have. The inside of the snapped tips both had oxidation, so the steel had to have fractures from tempering I figure. Plus the cutting edges don't meet on American bonsai's mid to large cutters, so they don't dull nearly as fast from steel on steel. They bevel one edge so they don't actually meet directly like every other cutter I have owned.
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