Ume fall pruning

ragenmoan

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I picked up a number of ume cuttings that are branching out well. Should I be looking at pruning these now or wait until after spring growth before the branches harden off?

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What is your plan for these? They are pretty young and small to be pruning. I’d recommend putting in the ground in spring to grow out and let the trunks thicken.
 
I picked up a number of ume cuttings that are branching out well. Should I be looking at pruning these now or wait until after spring growth before the branches harden off?

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If you want to see what can be done with these with growing them out, find Nybonsai12's thread on the progression of his he grew out.
 
I have a bunch this size and this year I'm following the general convention for deciduous fall cutback when you want to build strength: wait until the leaves change color, indicating that the energy that was once in the leaves has been reabsorbed by the vascular tissue
 
I prune after the leaves fall. Over time, Ume tend to shed branches and have viable buds at the tips of branches. After the leaves fall it’s a little easier to tell what buds are alive.

If the leaves’ undersides are smooth, and they’re starting to curl, the tree is likely to flower. Immature trees have rough foliage.

It may just be the angle, but the front right one doesn’t quite look like an Ume.
 
Yup...They don't look like Ume to me either.
 
I bought these cuttings early this summer from Lone Pine in Sabastipol. Forgot the owners name but he showed me the 2 parent trees the cuttings came from, a white single petal flower and the other a pink double petal flower. The cutting in question that’s different is the lone white flower variety.
 
Will probably prune back to 3 or 4 viable buds after leaves fall and stick them in the ground in the spring.
 
The trunk color and the leave if you look closer are Ume.
 
So pumped and surprised these turned out to be Ume and bloomed already. The one cutting that did not flower I'm told is suppose to white flowers. Maybe still too young to bloom? These are going into the ground to bulk up.

I'm thinking rather than trying to root cuttings again will instead try air layering some branches from my yard tree.

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air layering some branches from my yard tree
Success with air layer can be very dependant on the age of the material. Select younger branches for best results! Also fertilize the tree prior to in order to improve the odds. One other note, if possible select a branch that is ell exposed to the sun and expect that it will root on the sunny side. Most often corrective work will be needed late to develop roots on the other side.
let us know how it turns out.
 
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