tmmason10
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It looks a little nicer now that it's filled out. Fall work to follow in a few weeks.
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Really growing well and looking great, Tom. Nice job.
Dave
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tmmason10
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Well I have noticed the past few days that the top of the tree is starting to look faded. I wouldn't say yellowing, just faded. Is it possible that it got too cold outside during the cold snap last week? I can get a picture at some point if needed.
october
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Hi Tom.. The tree is looking very good. What a difference a little filling in can make. I am not a black pine guy. However, maybe the needles are just old and they are getting ready to drop. Can you post pics? I don't think the cold would make any difference. Was it protected fro mthe hurricane and the winds of the last nor' easter like storm? Could be too much water.
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Hey Rob, thanks for stopping in. The tree was not protected during the nor'easter, but like you said it probably isn't due to the weather. I am worried because I thought about all this tree has been through this year, and how it takes a while for a pine to lose it's color when its dying, and now I'm wondering if the wiring was maybe too much stress on it. Let me know what you think with the pictures. I'm going to bring it in to my class on Saturday and probably leave it at the nursery to be taken care of.
october
Masterpiece
I do not think that wiring had anything to do with it. You are correct about it taking time though. If the tree is stressed or worse, going to die, chances are it was something that happened maybe 4-6 plus weeks ago. I am not a black pine guy, but I think you do have some legitimate concern here. It does look like sections of the tree are not doing well.
Good luck. Let me know what John says about it.
Rob
Good luck. Let me know what John says about it.
Rob
tmmason10
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Thanks Rob, agreed it looks like I pushed it too far this year. The only things I have done with it are wire it the end of August, and it came inside for a day during sandy. I'm a little surprised since it looked so healthy, but it certainly doesn't look good. Looks like smokes JBP that didn't make it this year.
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
Could be root rot. Has it been drying out between waterings? Does it seem to be using any water?
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
There is also a chance it has spider mites, have you tested for this?
namnhi
Masterpiece
That is exactly the color of my JBP when they have mite. Pale green with very tiny white, yellowish specks. The only thing is I thought mites like dry hot condition which is not what we have now. I hope the tree will make it. Very nice progression so far.
NN
NN
tmmason10
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Thanks for your responses guys.
Brian- I would be surprised if it was root rot, it was just repotted this spring into some well draining soil. I guess it's possible but I'd be surprised.
Vance- I can check for spider notes either today or tomorrow.
I'll let you know johns dianosis/post mortem this weekend
Brian- I would be surprised if it was root rot, it was just repotted this spring into some well draining soil. I guess it's possible but I'd be surprised.
Vance- I can check for spider notes either today or tomorrow.
I'll let you know johns dianosis/post mortem this weekend
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This is my bet. Tom, I'm really bummed for you...hopefully the tree's foliage isn't as dry as it looks.
JudyB
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I hope it pulls through for you Tom, let us know what John says. I have found a good rule of thumb for pines... if the moss is happy, the substrate is staying too wet for pines.
Good luck.
Good luck.
tmmason10
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Thanks for the responses. I guess root rot does make the most sense, which is a little embarassing. It does seem to be the only possibility of why it has declined so fast after lookng so healthy. Judy makes a good point. I have been watering it sparingly this week, hardly any at all. I guess well see what happens but it doesn't look good. At the least, a lesson learned.
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Don't beat yourself up...I've been doing this alot longer then you and, within the last 3 years, I've lost 2 collected lodgepole pines and 3 imported azaleas to root rot/overwatering syndrome. All you can do is learn from the experience.
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
Ditto, lost a red, black, and Virginia pine this year. All from root problems.
fore
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Boy, I hope that pine pulls thru for you Tom! And last yrs spring, I lost a ch. elm that was not cheap, to root rot. I did learn a lesson there though so at least theres that 
october
Masterpiece
Ya, I lost this beautiful shohin pine, I believe, this year. It was only in training for about 7 months.
Rob
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nathanbs
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Identical to a couple of JBP that i lost this year. Due to way too big of a soil particle which allowed way too much air to the roots. So I learned that JBP not only dislike a wet environment but they hate super coarse soil. Whats weird is they seem like to be suffocated in lightly damp to dry potting soil in a nursery can. I hardly see a black pine happier than at a nursery in a tall plastic can. Even if it has been there for years. Watering too often seems to be a slower demise. a general yellowing of needles, slow growth, week buds.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Nathanbs, how large of soil particles were you using? And what was the substrate? Just curious...
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