Shohin BC development

[Cajunrider]

Pointless exercise Uncle? If you want a small BC then chop it down. If at the end it measured at 10 in or 12 in and great looking... who cares if it is not a shohin.

It is called bantering with the community.
It’s a lot more fun when people have a say.
When a tree is mangled in the woods, would Bonsainutters know?

 

[Srt8madness]

How about this one?
Originally I was thinking 24” flat top but
It has a curvy base from the tap root that came from the left side. Countering that is a smaller that is still developing root. Flat chop will be at 1/2 of that Coke can.
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Disagree with chop that low, would waste the natural movement. Maybe at the upper shoulder of coke can, then more taper/movement carved in. Just IMO from this one pic

 

[Cajunrider]

Disagree with chop that low, would waste the natural movement. Maybe at the upper shoulder of coke can, then more taper/movement carved in. Just IMO from this one pic

You have a point. Onward to finding the next candidate.

 

[Cajunrider]

You have a point. Onward to finding the next candidate.

 

[dbonsaiw]

Do you have any pics showing what this type of carving ultimately produces?

 

[Cajunrider]

Do you have any pics showing what this type of carving ultimately produces?

@johng has this tree as an excellent example.
As you can see, the wall on my tree is still very thick because I want to assure that the tips get plenty of support to grow. Once the top gets close to the size I want, the hollowing will be increased and the wall thickness will be much thinner.

 

[Cajunrider]

@johng has this tree as an excellent example.
As you can see, the wall on my tree is still very thick because I want to assure that the tips get plenty of support to grow. Once the top gets close to the size I want, the hollowing will be increased and the wall thickness will be much thinner.
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Picture from Randy Bennett

 

[dbonsaiw]

@johng has this tree as an excellent example.
As you can see, the wall on my tree is still very thick because I want to assure that the tips get plenty of support to grow. Once the top gets close to the size I want, the hollowing will be increased and the wall thickness will be much thinner.

Picture from Randy Bennett

Thanks.

 

[rusticana]

If I choose that tree, all that pole will be gone if I chop at 2.5” and carve the angle out. It is pretty much an entire top build. From the first inch of the trunk. All I use would the the base.

@Cadillactaste I’ve been looking but it is not easy to find a small gnarly one. That is why I am toying with the idea of a complete top build.

I agree with Cady. IMO Best to start with one with a strange launch. You'll find it.

 

[Cajunrider]

Rolling along.

 

[Cajunrider]

 

[Damart81]

Awesome stuff, you have any ideas for final design?

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[Cajunrider]

Good start on a pair of shohin BC. More trunk carving is in the plan. The top are starting to look good. Each tree has a very good base that is hidden at the moment.

 

[Cajunrider]

Good start on a pair of shohin BC. More trunk carving is in the plan. The top are starting to look good. Each tree has a very good base that is hidden at the moment.View attachment 593668View attachment 593669

The new shoots on the top bends wired down again to keep the height low.

 

[Maiden69]

I think you need to reduce the size of that pot by half if not more in order to reign that BC into wanting to be a shohin size tree. You won't have short internodes as long as those roots have space to run.

 

[Cajunrider]

I think you need to reduce the size of that pot by half if not more in order to reign that BC into wanting to be a shohin size tree. You won't have short internodes as long as those roots have space to run.

Yep. But right now I travel a lot and rely on automatic watering for extended periods. I can't afford to put them into small pots until I settle in the new house and create a reliable watering system. 95% of my trees are in big tubs.
BC will bud anywhere once lignified so I don't worry about internodes.

 

[Gabler]

Yep. But right now I travel a lot and rely on automatic watering for extended periods. I can't afford to put them into small pots until I settle in the new house and create a reliable watering system. 95% of my trees are in big tubs.
BC will bud anywhere once lignified so I don't worry about internodes.

Also, watering isn't quite as big a deal up here as I imagine it is in the deep south. Summers are fairly humid (Philly is on the Delaware River) and typically under 90°F. Occasional temperatures of 95°F are not unusual, but temperatures of 100°F are rare. Cities do tend to have a heat island effect, but it sounds like you'll be in a house with a yard, so that shouldn't be an issue.