Rocky Mt Juniper: First styling

MACH5 said:
Yes do! And no don't drive it too hard too soon because it will get stressed and likely push out juvenile foliage.

Vin I am sure you know this already but I would not pinch the growing tips. I believe this goes for all junipers.
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Will do and I never ever pinch any junipers.
 
I actually like the current image better than any of the 3 virts you made. I think it's not so much that I miss the jinn in virt 1 but I miss having the space filled.
I like it with a large and long canopy, long wispy branches for a long wispy trunk, no large negative space but lots of very small negative spaces, no pads but open viewable detail branching.
A small cliffside tree on the shady side of the mountain maybe?
 
Better, but I'd compress the thin trunk by another 25-30% to bring it closer to the base in this scenario.
 
That's pretty much exactly what I was trying to suggest earlier. Exc, I agree with Brian, needs a bit more compacting.
 
This is the first time i see this tree. I've started at page one, i liked the first styling (with in the back of my mind that after a first styling after a few years it comes to heavy and some branches need to go). We all like to build a tree, after the full image i was waiting for branches to be sacrificed. I like the movement of the branches, but it is not logical for me that a tortured tree (with a thin trunk) like this would be able to keep all that green. I don't know if compressing like this is possible without having unnatural curves so i was thinking with only the right branch. Go for the last image when possible. Keep in mind you will need a different pot, so how big is your rootball?
 
dirk hoorelbeke said:
This is the first time i see this tree. I've started at page one, i liked the first styling (with in the back of my mind that after a first styling after a few years it comes to heavy and some branches need to go). We all like to build a tree, after the full image i was waiting for branches to be sacrificed. I like the movement of the branches, but it is not logical for me that a tortured tree (with a thin trunk) like this would be able to keep all that green. I don't know if compressing like this is possible without having unnatural curves so i was thinking with only the right branch. Go for the last image when possible. Keep in mind you will need a different pot, so how big is your rootball?
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DH trying to understand your comment. What do you mean by " I was thinking with only the right branch. Go for the last image when possible". I do believe the image of this tree with that much green could possibly happen in nature. It could have gotten a disease, or struck by lightning or even suffered from a forest fire and then it recovered and now it's growing well again? This tree does not necessarily have to be growing in a harsh environment. My original intent was not that type of environment.

I think it is possible to compress the tree with raffia without necessarily having it look unnatural. Junipers do/can have some wild and unexpected twists and turns.
 
MACH5 said:
DH trying to understand your comment. What do you mean by " I was thinking with only the right branch. Go for the last image when possible". I do believe the image of this tree with that much green could possibly happen in nature. It could have gotten a disease, or struck by lightning or even suffered from a forest fire and then it recovered and now it's growing well again? This tree does not necessarily have to be growing in a harsh environment. My original intent was not that type of environment.

I think it is possible to compress the tree with raffia without necessarily having it look unnatural. Junipers do/can have some wild and unexpected twists and turns.
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Yes, me too, i think the full image can happen in nature. There are two big trunks dead, the branches are tortured (as they should), the trunk lays flat for whatever force there is. The initial curve in the trunk indicates to me the tree was bend at early age. It's not like it grew well and sort of upright, then got a disease, or lightning and needed to start over. You are the artist and with this peace of art you can tell the story you want. Some story's are more easy to believe. There is no one saying you have to do it now. Go outside in a storm with your tree, feel the wind and try to imagine what the cold snow and ice would do with your tree. When it feels right, it is... full or not, i like the tree. For bending, i know it will be possible. There is a rather long branch having to move and you will have to bend it a lot to make it convincing. Sometimes i like to play the advocate of the devil (don't know if that's an expression in English too?) so the extremes are pointed out.
 
dirk hoorelbeke said:
Yes, me too, i think the full image can happen in nature. There are two big trunks dead, the branches are tortured (as they should), the trunk lays flat for whatever force there is. The initial curve in the trunk indicates to me the tree was bend at early age.
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Definitely. How many examples would you like to see?:D
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I want to see lots of pictures... In the first picture, the foliage is not able to turn back in the way of the forces... in the second picture the tree has a more upright habit from the beginning. As stated, everything is possible in nature.
 
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