Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
My sentiment exactly.
Policy on new members selling things
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jszg
Mame
Reaction score might be more useful than post count. It's very easy to run up into the hundreds with vacuous comments, a little more challenging to garner more reactions.
ShadyStump
Imperial Masterpiece
Wow do we get awfully fil-also-fickle about these discussions.
A couple ideas that both revolve around the idea that the less scrupulous you are the more you tend towards easy marks.
If we as users simply agree that all selling posts NOT in the appropriate sub-forum are to be reported, that alone will do more than just about anything else. When this happens, the thread can be locked, a canned message stamped to repost in the proper section, and left at that. Only serious sellers will go through the trouble of reposting; frauds will fear they've been caught and get out. I feel that self-policing as a community is the most practical way to handle things.
Another protection to add to that which takes a small effort on @Bonsai Nut's part and is yet to be mentioned is to keep the buy/sell section off the front page feed. You can only see it if you're looking for it, which cuts down on impulse buys, and a fraudulent seller's potential audience.
I dislike this idea myself because even if I'm not buying seeing the threads of sellers as they pop up gives me the ability to casually keep an eye on the market, which benefits all of us when it comes to fraudulent sellers. Segregating the sellers also segregates the rest of us from the knowledge that helps us identify nerdowells.
Just thought I'd bring this concept up.
Overall, my vote is for a 30 day wait to sell on the forum, and all selling posts must be in the proper section. Along with the current standard of 10 post minimum to DM (because you're not likely to buy or sell without some DMs) I think creates allot of protection actually. A note in bold bright letters can be added to the new thread composition screen. It'd be annoying to look at for some regulars, but gives no excuse for not knowing the standard, then the rest is on us. Only needs to be a couple lines in bullet points.
A couple ideas that both revolve around the idea that the less scrupulous you are the more you tend towards easy marks.
If we as users simply agree that all selling posts NOT in the appropriate sub-forum are to be reported, that alone will do more than just about anything else. When this happens, the thread can be locked, a canned message stamped to repost in the proper section, and left at that. Only serious sellers will go through the trouble of reposting; frauds will fear they've been caught and get out. I feel that self-policing as a community is the most practical way to handle things.
Another protection to add to that which takes a small effort on @Bonsai Nut's part and is yet to be mentioned is to keep the buy/sell section off the front page feed. You can only see it if you're looking for it, which cuts down on impulse buys, and a fraudulent seller's potential audience.
I dislike this idea myself because even if I'm not buying seeing the threads of sellers as they pop up gives me the ability to casually keep an eye on the market, which benefits all of us when it comes to fraudulent sellers. Segregating the sellers also segregates the rest of us from the knowledge that helps us identify nerdowells.
Just thought I'd bring this concept up.
Overall, my vote is for a 30 day wait to sell on the forum, and all selling posts must be in the proper section. Along with the current standard of 10 post minimum to DM (because you're not likely to buy or sell without some DMs) I think creates allot of protection actually. A note in bold bright letters can be added to the new thread composition screen. It'd be annoying to look at for some regulars, but gives no excuse for not knowing the standard, then the rest is on us. Only needs to be a couple lines in bullet points.
I agree with a lot of what has been said. This is generally supposed to be a forum for sharing bonsai information. That said, I very much appreciate the various trees and pots offered for sale here by people we are often communicating with. Frankly, I would love to see more being offered so I don't have to go looking. It's probably also not so easy to make a buck in the bonsai industry, so it's nice to keep it within the BNut community. Common sense should prevail - personally, I would only buy from people (on this site and elsewhere) that I feel somewhat comfortable with. A reaction score can give users additional information and I trust a seller would be collectively roasted if they tried to take advantage.
I agree that there should be rules. The 30-day rule seems fair. Minimum number of post is good as well although I feel like for someone who just wanna sell, they're probably just gonna spam/troll just to get the minimum number. Maybe it'll be a great idea too to mark legit sellers with "verified" tag or something. That way, the community (new and old) would easily know that they're dealing with legitimate seller and they won't get scammed.
Another thing to consider (maybe down the road) is to have an investigating body because for sure people will somehow complain against a legit seller and we don't want them to lose their status easily just because of some unruly customers. So having a thorough investigation on the matter should help either the buyer or the seller. But it is still early so I suppose we don't need this right now. It's just a thought.
Another thing to consider (maybe down the road) is to have an investigating body because for sure people will somehow complain against a legit seller and we don't want them to lose their status easily just because of some unruly customers. So having a thorough investigation on the matter should help either the buyer or the seller. But it is still early so I suppose we don't need this right now. It's just a thought.
vancehanna
Chumono
I agree with the time factor as well as number of posts. Yet my feelings are why not have a charge or 'tax' that actually goes to bonsai.nut? I know many would be upset with me but hey, it is costly to run this site and I would not hesitate to pay 5-10% fee for such service. It might be too much for bonsainut to monitor or having to run it through their 'account' but it is a thought.
Honesty is the final answer and as Keith Scott told me over 50yrs ago in Chagrin Falls, OH (Went down to his place to see his incredible collection God Rest his Soul) ( I bought a small tree from him)
"Bonsai people are all honest, you don't need to show me your drivers license or write it on the check Vance," Keith Scott
But I guess that today, things have changed VH
Honesty is the final answer and as Keith Scott told me over 50yrs ago in Chagrin Falls, OH (Went down to his place to see his incredible collection God Rest his Soul) ( I bought a small tree from him)
"Bonsai people are all honest, you don't need to show me your drivers license or write it on the check Vance," Keith Scott
But I guess that today, things have changed VH
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Thetradingtree
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I think a verification process would be a great place to start. I can personally vouch for billsbayou Great dude.
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