Please I need help my for my ugly Toyo Nishiki Quince

Charlo

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I bought this Toyo Nishiki from a reputable Bonsai nursery site unseen. I was sent this plant with a horrible base. Looks like a weird butt. Maybe I have it wrong and I am supposed to make a clump from cuttings or what do I do with this fugly plant? Please help.
 

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It appears to me the straight section was retained as a sacrifice branch to thicken the base. I would start by removing it and replanting on a better planting angle. Grow out for several years to heal the scar and develop the trunk. Toyo Nishiki thicken slowly so it will take some time.
For best results be careful when removing the sacrifice trunk and seal carefully for best results. The line is not intended to be the finish cut just to suggest where to start. The actual cut should be planned to give a natural transition when healed. I would cut just before growing season in your location. IMG_4259.jpeg
 
*Sight unseen. Then you get what ya get. I call that brown bagging.

When I was small. The flea market sold brown lunch sacks with prizes. You upped the value of prize with monetary value. I was dirt poor growing up. I always seen it as a waste of good money throwing away at crap. My cousin would spend foolishly coming home with nothing that satisfied her.

That said...when I buy material. I want an actual image of what I'm buying. Same sense...growing up poor. I NEED TO SEE WHAT MY DOLLAR BRINGS.

So brown bag purchases ... even from reputable nurseries. Are just that. You get most likely a healthy tree. With questionable bones. Because you chose not to see an image before purchase. Value of purchase tends to reflect such purchases.

Agreed...cut that sacrifice branch off. It's straight as a poker. And work with what you have. I have two Toyo Nishiki. A root over rock and a neagari. I chose to build ramification over blooms. I'm almost satisfied where the neagari one is at structurally. That I'm going to ponder red blooms to graft onto it to make it more. Red toyo cuttings came from Brent Watson at Evergreen gardenworks...and sight unseen as I never intended bonsai..but for grafting. I got healthy material I can trust.
 
It appears to me the straight section was retained as a sacrifice branch to thicken the base. I would start by removing it and replanting on a better planting angle. Grow out for several years to heal the scar and develop the trunk. Toyo Nishiki thicken slowly so it will take some time.
For best results be careful when removing the sacrifice trunk and seal carefully for best results. The line is not intended to be the finish cut just to suggest where to start. The actual cut should be planned to give a natural transition when healed. I would cut just before growing season in your location. View attachment 581247
Thanks for the recommendation! This sounds as a great start.
 
*Sight unseen. Then you get what ya get. I call that brown bagging.

When I was small. The flea market sold brown lunch sacks with prizes. You upped the value of prize with monetary value. I was dirt poor growing up. I always seen it as a waste of good money throwing away at crap. My cousin would spend foolishly coming home with nothing that satisfied her.

That said...when I buy material. I want an actual image of what I'm buying. Same sense...growing up poor. I NEED TO SEE WHAT MY DOLLAR BRINGS.

So brown bag purchases ... even from reputable nurseries. Are just that. You get most likely a healthy tree. With questionable bones. Because you chose not to see an image before purchase. Value of purchase tends to reflect such purchases.

Agreed...cut that sacrifice branch off. It's straight as a poker. And work with what you have. I have two Toyo Nishiki. A root over rock and a neagari. I chose to build ramification over blooms. I'm almost satisfied where the neagari one is at structurally. That I'm going to ponder red blooms to graft onto it to make it more. Red toyo cuttings came from Brent Watson at Evergreen gardenworks...and sight unseen as I never intended bonsai..but for grafting. I got healthy material I can trust.
Thanks, for the works of wisdom. Hopefully, I can make it decent in a few years. Once I improve the base and change the angle I am sure my opinion on its looks will improve.
 
I agree with the above suggestions. I'll add this. Do the big cut, change the planting angle and plant it in the ground for 2-3 years. Do a trunk chop as you see fit. Someone in our club once said, "Every bonsai is a five year project.". The longer I'm in the hobby, the more that makes sense.
 
I bought this Toyo Nishiki from a reputable Bonsai nursery site unseen. I was sent this plant with a horrible base. Looks like a weird butt. Maybe I have it wrong and I am supposed to make a clump from cuttings or what do I do with this fugly plant? Please help.
Hey There!

Toyo Nishiki tend to strike well and backbud profusely if handled well. So don’t throw the cuttings with new growth away. You can strike these in the same container if there is room for the first year, or use another. We usually just put them in the same container to save space. Rooting compound can help.

Some Toyo Nishiki cultivars are miniature and very slow growing. We have both. Pretty sure this one is not. You will know for sure once you see the leaf size.

Rest regards!
DSD sends
 
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