Pine Identification Help

[River's Edge]

I would vote for Scots Pine based on all aspects I can observe from the pictures. Particularly the bluish cast to the needles and orange cast to the bark and branches.Not at all typical for lodgepole. Typically Scots also tend to show more sap extrusion on cones, branchlets in my experience. This is evident in the cone pictures. Cone shape and size is more indicative of Scott's as well.
That being said Scot's pine has so many varieties, good luck with that part.

 

[Colorado]

Scots pine

 

[PA_Penjing]

Absolutely not jack. I'd vote scots too, but have only worked with lodgepole yamadori, never seen one in the wild as a tall straight tree

 

[BrierPatch]

I got some more pics today it's the length of needles that throw me off. The needles actually look more greenish to me. So I cut a branch for a pic on a white background. Also a more close up of the bark.

 

[BrierPatch]

This is what I thought looked more like a scots pine. Looks more green/bluish and longer needles 3+ inches...

 

[River's Edge]

Have you checked on the many varieties of Scots pine? The bark matches Scots pine not lodgepole. Lodgepole was a distinctly greyish/black and does not tend to exfoliate the same as Scots. Bothe the reddish cast and the exfoliating characteristic are present in your pictures.

 

[Mike Westervelt]

Cones and bark say Scots to me.

 

[Cruiser]

In my opinion, that second batch of pics seals the deal. Scots pine. Don’t get too hung up on needle length, it varies from tree to tree within a species. If they were longer, like 5-7” then I’d wonder.

If my wife and I were walking past that tree I’d probably say something like, “Check out that scots pine, it’s a good one. Beautiful trunk.” Then my wife would pretend to care while I droned on about it

Nice find.

 

[BrierPatch]

In my opinion, that second batch of pics seals the deal. Scots pine. Don’t get too hung up on needle length, it varies from tree to tree within a species. If they were longer, like 5-7” then I’d wonder.

If my wife and I were walking past that tree I’d probably say something like, “Check out that scots pine, it’s a good one. Beautiful trunk.” Then my wife would pretend to care while I droned on about it

Nice find.

Thanks @Cruiser and everyone for all your input, Scots pine it is! That sounds like my wife haha

 

[Cruiser]

This is what I thought looked more like a scots pine. Looks more green/bluish and longer needles 3+ inches...

I do not think that one is a scots pine. Does it also have an orange or pinkish color to the bark? If so, consider red pine (pinus resinosa). Try breaking a few needles mid-shaft. If they make an audible snap or stay broken then it very likely is a red pine. Most pine needles won’t actually break when you bend them, they’ll just flop over.

I’ve attached photos comparing red pine (left) with scots (right). Note the difference in needle length, density, and the buds. The bark in these trees looks very similar but the scots has a more distinct delineation of the orange hue further up the trunk.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Team scots pine. Commonly planted everywhere. Reddish bark.

The Jack pine is rarely used by landscape nurseries, except for a few grafted cultivars. Also, Jack pine is rarely used for lumber or pulp wood plantations.

The pine cones are diagnostic, make note of prickles on the umbo (central bulge) and the margins of the scales of the cone. The prickles or teeth on the edge of the cone scales are important. Then use internet to look at pine cone comparisons, they count as reproductive features are considered conservative diagnostic features.

Pinus resinosa, I'm familiar with it, it has a much more red and plated into scale pattern bark. Needles of resinosa are almost always over 4 inches in length. Totally shade intolerant, so it is rarely used in landscaping, as it drops lower branches as they get shaded out. A definite hazard around a house. Great in lumber plantations. Not a city tree.

 

[BrierPatch]

I do not think that one is a scots pine. Does it also have an orange or pinkish color to the bark? If so, consider red pine (pinus resinosa). Try breaking a few needles mid-shaft. If they make an audible snap or stay broken then it very likely is a red pine. Most pine needles won’t actually break when you bend them, they’ll just flop over.

I’ve attached photos comparing red pine (left) with scots (right). Note the difference in needle length, density, and the buds. The bark in these trees looks very similar but the scots has a more distinct delineation of the orange hue further up the trunk.

The other one does not have the audible snap either. But one that I didn't show that I picked up from around the corner has those 5+ inch needles that snap when you break it, bark looks the same also. It has big seeds too, so now I think I know what that one is now, thanks!

BTW... I see you're up in Skagit, hope you're faring well with all the flooding up there, that's some crazy rising waters from the Skagit river!

 

[Cruiser]

The other one does not have the audible snap either. But one that I didn't show that I picked up from around the corner has those 5+ inch needles that snap when you break it, bark looks the same also. It has big seeds too, so now I think I know what that one is now, thanks!

BTW... I see you're up in Skagit, hope you're faring well with all the flooding up there, that's some crazy rising waters from the Skagit river!

Thanks. The water is crazy high. Last I checked, just 3 more feet until it crests the wall downtown.. fortunately I’m a little ways away up on a hill.