Picea Glauca Yamadori test tree.

You may actually have Abies abies and not Spruce. Needle growth habit, branch growth pattern, round needle tips tell me is true Fir tree;). If returning to same area cut section of dead tree(trunk)same size and count rings. Is one of ways Randy Knight determines age of trees. Would not be surprised if 300 years is real age. Would not be surprised if tree is VERY happy at better growing conditions and will do well for you.

I am pretty sure it’s a white spruce. I have cut down thousands of trees in the north. The super slow growth could be contributing to the balsam fir look. A few things are the needles, they are square rather then flat. When you pull them off they leave a tiny nub rather then a tiny cup. The bark is very very course compared to the thinner and flakier fir bark I have seen. But mostly, it tastes like a spruce tree. The sap tastes like oranges, I’ve eaten a lot of spruce sap when I was younger. Both spruce and fir sap are usage were survival 101. Fir also gets pockets of resin that can be popped. This tree has no signs of that either.
 
I am also confident in this being a spruce.

White spruce have pretty rounded blunt needles that do look a lot like abies.

Most of mine are probably white/englemann hybrids but here’s a comparison of one that looks more englemannish and another that’s more white spruceish. 12F14EEC-3273-4425-B8B3-03CFD92A700D.jpeg2D9648F6-E1A0-4D74-A3F8-7BF9AFF990A8.jpeg
 
The difference in the buds is the big giveaway. Also as Saddler said, bark, pitch pockets...
Yep, if the buds are roughly spherical, it’s Abies. If they’re a rounded conical shape (as in your second-to-last post), it’s Picea.
 
That’s s lot of new white roots! A very good sign. It would be better if it was still attached to the tree though ?. Just wondering, how did you accidentally pull a root off? That doesn’t seem possible to to by accident. Lol. Well if the rest of the roots lol anything like that one then I think this tree has a real chance!!!
 
That’s s lot of new white roots! A very good sign. It would be better if it was still attached to the tree though ?. Just wondering, how did you accidentally pull a root off? That doesn’t seem possible to to by accident. Lol. Well if the rest of the roots lol anything like that one then I think this tree has a real chance!!!

I mounded the dirt up 5-8 cm around the trunk when I potted the tree. I was curious how wet the original soil was so I started to gently pull away some dirt with my fingers and barely got down an inch when I felt a snap. I figured it was a dead branch that fell when I was adding soil so I gave it a pull to remove and it just when on and on, about a centimetre under the soil. I am pretty sure it’s a completely new root because it broke with no effort and well above the old soil.

Yes, I agree that root would be better still attached. That is why I immediately pushed all the dirt back and stopped concerning myself with the old dirt for now.
 
More than hope really. New roots, dozens of buds, a climate with mild winters. Nothing to worry about, you’ve got it.
I want to believe that, but it’s when I get my hopes up, the gets pulled from under me. Assuming that it does go as planned, I want to go collect three or four more this fall, but take much more time to pick some trees with outstanding character.
 
I want to believe that, but it’s when I get my hopes up, the gets pulled from under me. Assuming that it does go as planned, I want to go collect three or four more this fall, but take much more time to pick some trees with outstanding character.

Looks like a collecting spot with outstanding potential that’s for sure!

Canadian bonsai scene wouldn’t be hurt by having trees like you can collect there available for development. I’d like to visit that area someday. I can find great trees here too but that looks much different collecting grounds than the south here. In some ways looks better, easy access too, wow! I’m sure there is a whole plethora of untapped area like that, exciting to think of.
 
I think there are hundreds of collection grounds, if not thousands in the north. I have three locations on my list that are all relatively easy access to (20 minute hike at most, but a bit of work to descend with a tree). With a dozen more locations I remember from growing up/working that had trees that had me mentally catalogue them for their character long before I knew about Bonsai. Just find an old defunct mine and driving to the top would probably get you something.
 
This tree is going to give me an aneurism. Do spruce ever have a second flush of growth and shed a years worth of needles? Mine has buds swelling and old needles turning yellow, again this year. 08D623EB-E083-4734-AEAD-88DDBE266983.jpeg6A0CC87F-6235-45B2-931B-CEB848CC0704.jpeg4D09E5B5-8718-4194-B283-BAA0242A0DB5.jpegFADD9F09-3EF0-417F-AA25-F6993F226793.jpeg24C6BD9B-905D-4650-9B49-5D6DEF5F9CC1.jpegI’ve been watching these buds swell for the last couple of weeks thinking that they are just growing because they are last years buds, now they look like they are ready to pop needles soon. (None of the pics are of the same branch)

I know I have a lot of new roots growing, I can’t dig more then a couple centimetres anywhere without hitting them. Is this normal? Is it good? Bad? My knowledge of spruce is limited, but this seems bad. But roots. And new buds. F0BD2FCD-1C46-4844-95CB-808AA88FC554.jpeg
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Looks very healthy to me, I have seen second flushes on my spruces sometimes, though these are usually weak growths.
But it probably wouldn’t do that if didn’t have the resources for it.
I’d say by next year you can likely go ahead and do some styling.
Nice tree
 
I know I have a lot of new roots growing, I can’t dig more then a couple centimetres anywhere without hitting them. Is this normal? Is it good? Bad?

Is FANTASTIC:eek:! What ALL want to see in Yamadori;). Trunk is Great, deadwood is GREAT loviing movement at top, just remains to see how GREAT can you make foliage/branching. Great potential here.
 
Is FANTASTIC:eek:! What ALL want to see in Yamadori;). Trunk is Great, deadwood is GREAT loviing movement at top, just remains to see how GREAT can you make foliage/branching. Great potential here.
Thanks. I have to say the Ravens Perch (as I call it) at the top is my favourite feature. I agree that the potential is there and EVERYTHING else is up to me. I am the one that will make or break it. It’s a little nerve racking. I wish I was able to see this type of tree in nature for inspiration.
 
It looks really promising. :cool:
However, I would really stop fiddling with it. You have been at the roots at least twice. You have been removing deadwood. I would say. Leave it untouched. Wait for stong growth. But untill that time, let is get settles and make those roots stronger.

That being said.. I have never collected anything near what you have there so who am I to have an opinion :rolleyes:;)
 
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